[NSRCA-discussion] JR Stuff, Where made?
jeffghughes at comcast.net
jeffghughes at comcast.net
Tue Jan 10 03:42:57 AKST 2006
Ed,
My point was irrespective of where a product is actually assembled, most have significant components that were manufactured overseas. It is a true global economy here in the US. We get our conrods from India, crankshafts from brazil and blocks from Germany. Our FEA's are now done in India. We do final assembly here in the states. GM is the same, a good percentage of any GM car is manufactured offshore. And be careful about looking down your nose at foreign quality. We get product from China and India that is every bit as good as what we used to get from the US.
Now I do agree that this globalization is eroding our manufacturing base and dragging the US middle class down with it. In a free capatilistic society, I don't see any easy answers. In some respects, the Japanese have picked up the slack here in the US and invested heavily in manurfacturing plants, both final assembly plants (Honda, Toyota, Nissan, etc) and component plants (Aisen,NTN, NSK, etc).
We are all the same in that we want the most product for our money. To some that is a throw away DVD player for $29, instead of a good one for $100. In American business, it is always about the money.
Jeff
PS-I've owned two Corvettes, best sports car in the world!
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From: "Ed Miller" <edbon85 at charter.net>
> Not true. Even in Wally World, one can find US based and produced products.
> Just bought a battery tender and very small ( carry in the bike ) air
> compressor, both US based and produced.
> Buicks newest offering, the Lucerne, is built at a plant in Detroit that
> builds nothing but Lucerne's. There goal is un-matched quality and the ones
> I've seen so far prove it. The CXS model is a Northstar based vehicle which
> is equal to any in quality. Yes, there may be some non-US content parts in
> it but it looks like more of it is US based. It has the body fits of any car
> I have ever looked at. It will be my wife's next car.
> Harley Davidson, although they do use some parts from overseas, is US based
> and produced. I doubt the current Harley owner nor future Harley owners
> would purchase another Harley if they saw them coming off a boat on the east
> or west coast.
> Unfortunately there is a huge part of US society that equates "better
> quality" to something that has traveled over salt water. It's really the
> status name game to be one up on your neighbor. I don't know how you correct
> that. Even though there are only a hand full of cars in the world capable of
> matching the Corvette's performance, it is still called and looked down by
> many as just a Chevrolet.
> Then there is another part of US society that cares nothing about quality,
> service or longevity and purchase's purely on price. Sadly some of them were
> middle class members of society that were "Bushed" into the working poor.
> I have a 20 year old 28" console ( real Oak ) RCA TV to this day that has
> never had a problem. It's picture rivals the wiz-bang BS TV's sold today. It
> says "Made in the USA" on the back.
> I recently had to replace the driver side window electric motor in my Astro
> Van. The failed unit said "Made in Mexico " and the new replacement from GM
> said "Made in the USA".
> Talked to anyone with a Maytag appliance since they were "off shored" ?.
> Once a symbol of quality and reliability, they now barely make it through
> warranty.
> If and when the US consumer stops buying junk like the $29.95 DVD player
> Wal-Mart had on sale right before Xmas, maybe quality and real employment
> will return here. The point of my original post, I'm sick and tired of it
> being about the money.
> Ed M.
>
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> >I doubt if there is a consumer product of any value that is truly "American
> >Made". GM may have assembly plants in the US, but I'd wager that half the
> >content (parts) come from china, mexico and india.
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> >> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Ed Miller
> >> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 3:07 PM
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> >> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] JR Stuff, Where made?
> >>
> >>
> >> Welcome to the world of "how cheap it can be made" syndrome. I bought my
> >> son's LCD 23" TV's for Xmas, made overseas. Both went back to Wally World
> >> yesterday as both are defective. Of course Wally World didn't have any to
> >> replace them, so I got a refund. No matter where I went, nobody had 2 of
> >> any
> >> one model so I had to purchase 1 LCD TV and order the 2nd from Circuit
> >> City.
> >> The new TV's I bought are a different brand than the originals I bought
> >> and,
> >> of course they are made overseas. Anyone that thinks we are getting
> >> superior
> >> products at a better quality in this new world order is sadly mistaken.
> >> It's
> >> all about the $$$, if it's cheaper it must be a better deal.
> >> I'll keep my made in Japan Futaba equipment and continue to buy GM cars
> >> and
> >> Harley motorcycles as long as I can, until this current business mindset
> >> runs every decent business into the ground.
> >> Those pictures you see on CNN of the "3rd world countries", get used to
> >> them
> >> as they very well could become your children's neighborhoods.
> >> Ed M.
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> >> From:
> >> To:
> >> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 2:46 PM
> >> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] JR Stuff, Where made?
> >>
> >>
> >> >I just got off the phone with a Tech. at Horizon, I had an issue with
> >> >some
> >> > 537 digitals, and he told me all JR servos are made at the same factory
> >> > in
> >> > Malaysia, Yipee cause one of mine quit on the third flight and the one
> >> > I
> >> > replaced it with would only travel in one direction. I even asked him
> >> > if
> >> > 8231's are
> >> > made at the same facility and he went and asked someone else and came
> >> > back
> >> > and repeated that they were all being made in the same place. Bah
> >> > Humbug!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Mike H..
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
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