[NSRCA-discussion] Futaba ZAP WC2 transmitter problem

Karl G. Mueller kgamueller at rogers.com
Tue Jan 3 06:04:04 AKST 2006


  Peter,

  You don't want to have our weather. It is just above freezing,
  raining, fogy and just downright misserable. I trade you anytime.
  On the blue glue type substance you found on the pot assembly
  it could be the blue Loctite, which is used a lot on model car assemblies.
  This is what I use as well for engine mounting srews. It will stop the
  srews from coming loose through fibration, but will let you remove them
  without any problem. The red Loctite is designed to be more permanent.
  You can get it at you LHS that deals in model cars.

  Karl G. Mueller
  kgamueller at rogers.com


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Peter Pennisi" <pentagon.systems at bigpond.com>
  To: "'NSRCA Mailing List'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
  Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 9:39 AM
  Subject: RE: [NSRCA-discussion] Futaba ZAP WC2 transmitter problem


  > Hi All,
  >
  > I have overcome my transmitter problem by carrying out a re-calibration
of
  > the radio by accessing the service menu.
  >
  > I guess the elevator channel had drifted enough such that the maths
  > associated with translating stick movement to servo position resulted in
the
  > channel reversal. I read somewhere that the transmitter uses signed
integers
  > as part of its calculations.
  >
  > This may explain why I have been having elevator trimming problems for
some
  > time. Thanks for all the suggestions.
  >
  > I need to investigate why my elevator channel has drifted by this
amount.
  >
  > I removed my elevator servo pot during my search and found a substance
(some
  > type of blue glue) which ensured the pot housing did not move within the
  > gimbal. Anyone know what they may have used?
  >
  >
  >
  >
  > Regards,
  >
  > Peter
  >
  >
  >
  > Peter Pennisi
  >
  > Pentagon Systems QLD Pty Ltd
  > P.O Box 4280
  > Eight Mile Plains
  > QLD 4113
  > Australia
  > Phone:    61+0738414234
  > Fax:        61+0738414264
  > Mobile:   0408007206
  > Email: pentagon.systems at bigpond.com
  >
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
  > [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Peter
Pennisi
  > Sent: Tuesday, 3 January 2006 1:29 PM
  > To: 'NSRCA Mailing List'
  > Subject: RE: [NSRCA-discussion] Futaba ZAP WC2 transmitter problem
  >
  >
  > Hi Karl,
  >
  > Great to hear from you again. I wouldn't mind your weather at the
moment. It
  > is so hot down here that you can't stay outside let alone fly.
  >
  > I have checked the loom and all is OK in that department. It appears
that
  > the pot may be rotating so I am investigating this theory.
  >
  > Cheers,
  >
  > Peter
  >
  >
  >
  >
  > Peter Pennisi
  >
  > Pentagon Systems QLD Pty Ltd
  > P.O Box 4280
  > Eight Mile Plains
  > QLD 4113
  > Australia
  > Phone:    61+0738414234
  > Fax:        61+0738414264
  > Mobile:   0408007206
  > Email: pentagon.systems at bigpond.com
  >
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
  > [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Karl G.
  > Mueller
  > Sent: Tuesday, 3 January 2006 12:54 PM
  > To: NSRCA Mailing List
  > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Futaba ZAP WC2 transmitter problem
  >
  >   Peter,
  >
  >   Hope every body is well down under.
  >   I had a similar problem where the servo would jump at the very end of
  >   the stick travel. All it was that the loop in the wires from the pot
was
  >   to tight and at the end of the travel would put some strain on the pot
  >   connections. I increased the amount of the slack in the wires and
  >   that fixed the problem. Don't know whether that might be your problem
  >   as well or not.
  >
  >   Karl G. Mueller
  >   kgamueller at rogers.com
  >
  >
  >   ----- Original Message ----- 
  >   From: "Peter Pennisi" <pentagon.systems at bigpond.com>
  >   To: "'NSRCA Mailing List'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
  >   Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 6:46 PM
  >   Subject: RE: [NSRCA-discussion] Futaba ZAP WC2 transmitter problem
  >
  >
  >   > Yes it does.
  >   >
  >   >
  >   >
  >   >
  >   > Peter Pennisi
  >   >
  >   > Pentagon Systems QLD Pty Ltd
  >   > P.O Box 4280
  >   > Eight Mile Plains
  >   > QLD 4113
  >   > Australia
  >   > Phone: 61+0738414234
  >   > Fax: 61+0738414264
  >   > Mobile: 0408007206
  >   > Email: pentagon.systems at bigpond.com
  >   > ________________________________________
  >   > From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
  >   > [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of brian
  > young
  >   > Sent: Tuesday, 3 January 2006 9:33 AM
  >   > To: NSRCA Mailing List
  >   > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Futaba ZAP WC2 transmitter problem
  >   >
  >   > Does this show up in the Servo display, the screen that shows servo
  > motion?
  >   > Seems like it should.
  >   >
  >   > Brian
  >   >
  >   > Peter Pennisi <pentagon.systems at bigpond.com> wrote:
  >   > Hi all,
  >   >
  >   > My transmitter has recently developed a weird problem and only seems
to
  > be
  >   > affected on the elevator channel (Mode 1)
  >   >
  >   > What happens is when I move the elevator gimbals to approximately
95%
  > down
  >   > elevator the servo will reverse to up elevator.
  >   >
  >   > I have checked all my mixes and programming and can confirm this is
not
  > the
  >   > problem area. I have also checked all my flight systems and the
problem
  > is
  >   > not there.
  >   >
  >   > I have cross checked everything and the consensus leads to a problem
in
  > the
  >   > transmitter. My new model has dual elevator servo's and the problem
  > causes
  >   > both servo's to reverse so that
  >   > Confirms the probl! em is in the transmitter.
  >   >
  >   > The problem is evident on all 6 models programmed in my transmitter.
  >   >
  >   > I initially thought the problem was a faulty or dirty elevator pot
but
  > some
  >   > tests I recently carried out don't convince me this is the problem.
My
  >   > suspicions are that I may have a cable problem somewhere between
  >   > The elevator pot and the main processor board so I have since
ordered a
  >   > replacement set of ribbon cables.
  >   >
  >   > I know most of you are asking yourself why not send the radio in to
a
  > proper
  >   > service centre. We just don't have people in Australia that I trust
  > enough
  >   > to carry out any work with Futaba systems. I guess if all else fails
  >   > I will send it to Japan at great cost.
  >   >
  >   > Anyway I recently became aware of another local WC2 transmitter
which
  > has
  >   > exactly the same problem as mine. Now I am starting to think that
this
  > may
  >   > be a common problem. Has anyone else on this mailing list ever
  > experienced
  >   > a similar problem?
  >   >
  >   >
  >   > Regards,
  >   >
  >   > Peter
  >   >
  >   >
  >   >
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