[NSRCA-discussion] SODA BOTTLE FUEL TANK

Jay Marshall lightfoot at sc.rr.com
Sat Feb 18 07:54:02 AKST 2006


Only if they are beer cans.
 
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Steve
 The more of these cans that you emtpy and weigh the more the error
possibility.
 
Jim Ivey
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From: spbyrum <mailto:spbyrum at hiwaay.net>  
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It might be necessary to weigh a large number of these cans, both with and
without contents, in order to get an average weight.  As there is no data on
quality control during the manufacture of these cans, the weight of the cans
themselves could vary greatly.
 
Steve Byrum 
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of brian young
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Anyone seen the aluminum bear bottle shaped bear cans? Wonder what those
weight empty.....could be an interesting excercise some evening.....

Ed Miller <edbon85 at charter.net> wrote: 
Won't it still shrink in the cold ??
Ed M.
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From: Dean Pappas <mailto:d.pappas at kodeos.com>  
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The bottle that rubbing alchohol is typically sold in is made of
polyethylene. They are typically very thin walled, and light.
Maybe this would solve some of your shrinkage problems?.
 
Dean Pappas 
Sr. Design Engineer 
Kodeos Communications 
111 Corporate Blvd. 
South Plainfield, N.J. 07080 
(908) 222-7817 phone 
(908) 222-2392 fax 
d.pappas at kodeos.com 
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Wayne
 I just flew the coke bottle tank today and I get 15 minutes on 24 oz of
fuel.It actually draws fuel down to 1 oz in the tank,doing the Masters
pattern.
The upside is I don't have to fill it full to complete the pattern. The
weight savings is 2.5 oz using this tank.
 To review...... this was a 33 oz, 1 liter coke bottle' that I pickled with
30 % heli for 2 months.
 ! 
Jim Ivey
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From: Wayne Galligan <mailto:wgalligan at goodsonacura.com>  
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Wow!!!  24 oz....    I can fly 15 min. on the 15.9 oz. bottle with my OS
1.40.  I was wondering why these wide body planes started getting so
popular.... got to have'em so you can put a big en! ough fuel tank in them.
 
Wayne
 
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From: jivey61 at bellsouth.net 
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Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:36 PM
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Wayne
 I was getting ready to update my experiment with the 33 oz coke bottle
filled with fuel 30%. I let it sit and shrink for 2 months,then when! it
appeared to stop shrinking I removed the fuel and carefully measured the
volume.The bottle started life as 33 oz,1 liter and now holds 24 oz liquid.
Which is perfect for a thirsty 160 DZ with a 4 blade prop.I have it in my
Smaragd and will fly (test) tomorrow. Should work fine and no more
shrinking.
 
Jim Ivey
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From: Wayne Galligan <mailto:wgalligan at goodsonacura.com>  
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Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 6:21 PM
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FYI...   I had a conversation with a flying friend the other day about the
soda bottle fuel tanks and the way they shrink.  He happens to work for
Pepsi and explained to me that the bottles are blow molded.  He said if they
are not used with in a certain period of time that the memory in the plastic
takes over and they will shrink in size and then they have to discard the
old bottles.  The carbonized soda keeps the shape of the bottle till used.
He said that most likely the nitro content speeds up the process and could
explain why some of you using them with higher then 15% nitro are
experiencing this phenomenon.
So.... drink another one.... rinse and fill.

Wayne Galligan

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