[NSRCA-discussion] Direct Servo Drive

Ed Miller edbon85 at charter.net
Mon Feb 13 15:17:18 AKST 2006


Within the 10 ten in the USA.  We even drive on the correct side of the road and play real football ( UT ) here.  
Ed M. 
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  From: Grow Pattern 
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  Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 6:15 PM
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  They have schools???
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    From: Ed Miller 
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    Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 5:56 PM
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    School was closed here in Farragut, Knox county schools today also. I think the few flurries we had over the weekend and the TV shots of the northeast being buried caused a "sympathy shutdown" of Knox county schools. :)
    Ed M.
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      From: John Ferrell 
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      Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 5:42 PM
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      I understand and sympathize. Over hear on the East side of the mountains there were snow flurries seen on last Thursday morning somewhere in the county so they delayed school opening two hours...

      John Ferrell    
      http://DixieNC.US

        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Ed Miller 
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        Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 5:33 PM
        Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Direct Servo Drive


        Yeah, TN sucks. My property taxes are 1/3 they were in NY and I tried but TN refuses to collect state income tax from me. Weather sucks as I long for those January and February days of shoveling snow, chipping ice, mind numbing cold and falling on my butt.  I can drive a car around in my house ( full scale )...... Guaranteed immortality wouldn't get me to move back. Wait, is that a banjo I hear in the background ??? Ed M.
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          From: Del K. Rykert 
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          Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 3:10 PM
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          How absolutely revolting...  to be flying a real 2m pattern ship in February..  and not be in the sun belt.. 

                           Del 
                    nsrca - 473
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            From: Scott Anderson 
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            Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 2:31 PM
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            1 inch dusting in Knoxville, TN and going to be 60f on Tuesday.. Might just have to go fly :)

            scott anderson
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              From: Randy hatfield 
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              Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 2:18 PM
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              I call it a re-use of the dining room.  We had a 12 inch 'dusting' as well in DC.  Black ice everywhere this morning.  I am having fun turing Balsa in to mounds of saw dust.

              Randy
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                From: Dean Pappas 
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                Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 1:50 PM
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                That's a padded room, right? I call it the workshop.
                Dean

                Dean Pappas 
                Sr. Design Engineer 
                Kodeos Communications 
                111 Corporate Blvd. 
                South Plainfield, N.J. 07080 
                (908) 222-7817 phone 
                (908) 222-2392 fax 
                d.pappas at kodeos.com 

                  -----Original Message-----
                  From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Grow Pattern
                  Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 1:48 PM
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                  Dean,
                             What snow?

                  It's only a 12" dusting.....Signed, ex Boston MA inmate....

                  You should just "get a room" for yourself and the "tuned-pipe-pundits", then talk 2-c's and pipes until the snow melts! That will keep you all sane!  :-)))) John's RV is vacant right now.....

                  Evl-Eric.
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                    From: Dean Pappas 
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                    Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 1:39 PM
                    Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Direct Servo Drive


                    Yeah, John!
                    What ever happened to the "obvious to one skilled in the art" clause? 
                    Maybe what is patented is the arrangement of servo-box, or extension arm ... in any case, this falls under the heading of re-patenting the wheel.
                    Granted, on a 3-D only setup, I'd hook up to the servo this way!

                    signed, snow covered in Joisey
                    A.K.A.
                    Dean Pappas 
                    Sr. Design Engineer 
                    Kodeos Communications 
                    111 Corporate Blvd. 
                    South Plainfield, N.J. 07080 
                    (908) 222-7817 phone 
                    (908) 222-2392 fax 
                    d.pappas at kodeos.com 
                      -----Original Message-----
                      From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of John Ferrell
                      Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 1:30 PM
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                      If that can be worthy of a patent, the inmates are in charge of the asylum!

                      John Ferrell    
                      http://DixieNC.US

                        ----- Original Message ----- 
                        From: Bob Richards 
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                        Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 9:08 AM
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                        My feeling exactly.

                        Bob R.


                        Ed Alt <ed_alt at hotmail.com> wrote:
                          Never have seen it before, but I guess the main question I have concerns the potential for loss of effective torque transmitted to the control surface.  I see that they claim it's better due to no losses.  That would be true in the sense that you don't lose that little bit in the linkage friction etc., but if you only want, say, 25 degrees of surface throw each direction, it would appear that you would have to limit the servo travel to 25 degrees as well.  If that's true, then you have less mechanical advantage for a given degree of movement for the surface, since you would normally have a servo traveling about doub! le that distance.  The control surface speed would be quicker, assuming the load is handled without any blowback or slowdown of movement due to the effectively lower torque transmitted while moving.  Maybe I'm not seeing it right, but it looks like it might not be such a good thing to use, unless you were already planning on having something close to a 1:1 correspondence of degrees of servo arm movement to degrees of surface travel.

                          Ed



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