[NSRCA-discussion] NSRCA Dues Increase

Mon Dec 25 10:15:49 AKST 2006

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Lockhart" <ronlock at comcast.net>
To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Monday, December 25, 2006 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NSRCA Dues Increase


> Here is one way to look at it.........To a large degree, the product is 
> us.
> Were a membership community, having characteristics of a technical 
> society,
> a social club, and much more.
> The "management" of NSRCA and the K Factor is partly a product those in 
> our
> membership that choose
> to run for an office, and then volunteer time and resources for the
> betterment of pattern.
>
> Later, Ron Lockhart, NSRCA 321
> (Renewed on line, worked fine)
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Wayne" <Whinkle1024 at msn.com>
> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 11:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NSRCA Dues Increase
>
>
>> Ok guys I guess I'm the only one not willing to renew because the product
> is
>> poor. By the way my dues last year were only $30 not $15,000. 500 members
> at
>> $10 increase each is only $5k and merely a Band-Aid on the issue.
>>
>> The advertising $ is not there because our great quality color 
>> publication
>> doesn't go to enough people to make the advertising as worthy. I think we
>> need some drastic changes to the way we do business.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Mike Hester" <kerlock at comcast.net>
>> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 8:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NSRCA Dues Increase
>>
>>
>> > Ummm..........Merry Christmas.........I'm going to swallow the freakin
>> > blood
>> > from biting my tongue clean in half and I'll get back to this one after
>> > Christmas is over. Not trying to be adversarial, but wow, I'll get into
>> > that
>> > after we have a nice holiday.
>> >
>> > Merry Christmas, and hold that thought....but if you don't see anything
>> > going on to promote pattern, I wonder where you're looking.
>> >
>> > -Mike
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Wayne" <Whinkle1024 at msn.com>
>> > To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> > Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 9:16 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NSRCA Dues Increase
>> >
>> >
>> >> Don't worry Paul it wasn't announced in the KF either!
>> >>
>> >> So you didn't miss anything.
>> >>
>> >> I understand the need for increased dues. I also understand the need
> for
>> >> the
>> >> NSRCA to give us something in return for our support. Today I don't 
>> >> see
>> >> much
>> >> going on to PROMOTE pattern. While I wish to support pattern and
> promote
>> >> it
>> >> I will take my $40 and spend it on attendance at an event rather than
> the
>> >> NSRCA.
>> >>
>> >> Sorry but poor management of more of our funds are not going to get it
>> >> done.
>> >> 2 years ago when folks asked questions of Derek and Lamar the bank
>> >> account
>> >> was sitting on a surplus of about $12,000 or so. If I remember the
>> >> numbers
>> >> correctly. I'm going to go find the old KF that had this number in it.
>> >> Rusty
>> >> Dose tells us last month that we are down over $15,000 is dues and
>> >> advertising revenue. Looks to me like this has been a sinking ship for
>> >> some
>> >> time. The very fact that I received a renewal notice with the $40 
>> >> price
>> >> tag
>> >> on it a full week before we heard about it from the board is another
> sign
>> >> of
>> >> mismanagement. A 30% increase in dues just because there has not been 
>> >> a
>> >> increase in many years is not the solution to our problems. Where is
> the
>> >> 30%
>> >> increase going to help support precision aerobatics.
>> >>
>> >> I think that with all products and services in the market place today
> the
>> >> NSRCA needs to show some value to the modelers out there. If this
> happens
>> >> then membership will grow. Revenue will increase. And Pattern flying
> will
>> >> prosper. I feel that I and other vote with our pocket books. The 
>> >> reason
>> >> advertising dollars are down, the reason dues dollars are down is due
>> >> directly to the product supplied.
>> >>
>> >> Perhaps the NSRCA leadership is listening but instead we talk about
> what
>> >> a
>> >> great job has been done and how far we have come. I'm not into bashing
>> >> the
>> >> guy that just left but Derek we have seen nothing about how to get us
> out
>> >> of
>> >> this pickle we are in. Therefore I elect not to renew at this time. I
>> >> think
>> >> there are better places to spend our money to support Precision
>> >> Aerobatics.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Wayne
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> From: "Paul Brine" <pbrine at uoguelph.ca>
>> >> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> >> Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 3:19 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NSRCA Dues Increase
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> It also wasn't announced to the membership until Dec 22nd via Lamar's
>> >>> email.
>> >>> Remember not everyone (ie myself ) is in a position to download and
> read
>> >>> the
>> >>> k-factor on-line.
>> >>>
>> >>> Applying the increase to those who renewed before then is like you
>> >>> signing
>> >>> on the line to buy a car and being told a week later by the dealer
> that
>> >>> the
>> >>> price went up a $1000.
>> >>>
>> >>> Paul
>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>> From: Martin X. Moleski, SJ <moleski at canisius.edu>
>> >>> To: NSRCA Mailing List <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> >>> Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 1:07 PM
>> >>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NSRCA Dues Increase
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> Anthony Abdullah wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> > Silly quesion:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> > After a long pattern lay off for grad school and such I am
> returning
>> >>>> > in
>> >>>> > full force. Part of that included renewing my NSRCA membership.
> When
>> >>>> > I
>> >>>> > downloaded and printed the form from the NSRCA website the dues 
>> >>>> > was
>> >>>> > listed as $30.00 and that is how much the check was written for
> (just
>> >>>> > two days ago). Do I need to send an additional check for $10.00 or
> is
>> >>>> > the price increse effective Jan 1?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> There was a missed communication between Lamar and myself early in
>> >>>> December, so I didn't hear about the change in dues until two or
>> >>>> three days ago.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The law is probably on your side, if you want to take the time
>> >>>> to take it to court.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> It would be a huge kindness to simply send along another $10 check.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I believe the forms have all been updated.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I'm hoping to work on the Paypal front end over this vacation.
>> >>>> It hasn't been satisfactory for a couple of years ... my bad.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Marty
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