[NSRCA-discussion] WOW - Brio maiden

[Kelly Regan]

Thanks everyone,

I flew it 4 more times today and it is a blast! ;)
Having to much fun to start trimming.

I don't think the plane is carrying any aileron trim.  Also
it is not carrying any elevator trim.

Today I observed the following...

Up and down thrust,  full power level flight and chop the throttle,
the plane tracked perfectly straight so it looks like the thrust line
is good.

Dynamic balance seems fine,  power off dive and full up elevator and
the wings stay level.

It is hard to drive it slow!  ;)





Dean Pappas wrote:
> Hi Stu,
> Yes,  it's easy now, but back in the eighties Nat and I were discussing this same experiment with a P8, as a fair number of P8s trimmed beautifully, while others had this canopy pull with right rudder and a belly push with left rudder. I've never seen a plane where it was the opposite, but with a reverse pitch prop, a left-thrust adjustment, and two swapped wires we may be able to tell once and for all.
>
> Kelly,
> What Dave wrote has worked more than once.
> What I believe Don S wrote was that if you are carrying left aileron trim for level flight, then twist the wings to eliminate the aileron trim.
> This may help or eliminate the slow left roll on power-off vertical dives. If you don't have that problem to begin with, then never mind.
> The different pull-push with rudder may be affected, but before you try either approach, look carefully for wing-to-stab twist as viewed from the front of the plane.
> Dean
>
> Dean Pappas
> Sr. Design Engineer
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Stuart
> Chale
> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 10:06 AM
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> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] WOW - Brio maiden
>
>
> Doesn't help your Phoenix 8 but how about a pusher prop on an electric?  You
> can change direction on the electric motor and see how that affects the trim
> problems.
> Stuart
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Dean Pappas
> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 9:59 AM
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> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] WOW - Brio maiden
>
> Nat,
> You're absolutely right! That's why you should pick up a copy of February's
> Flyng Models.
> I still wish we'de had a backwards crank for an OS FSR to test in a Phoenix
> 8 with the same issue.
>
> Dean
>
> Dean Pappas
> Sr. Design Engineer
> Kodeos Communications
> 111 Corporate Blvd.
> South Plainfield, N.J. 07080
> (908) 222-7817 phone
> (908) 222-2392 fax
> d.pappas at kodeos.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Nat Penton
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 11:10 PM
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> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] WOW - Brio maiden
>
>
> Kelly
> Contra rotating props would solve the knife edge trim needs. Congratulations
>
> you have a straight airplane.  Nat
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kelly Regan" <kelly.regan2 at verizon.net>
> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 8:43 PM
> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] WOW - Brio maiden
>
>
>   
>> All I can say is WOW !!!
>>
>> I flew the Brio today and what a blast!  The first flight was pretty
>> much uneventful. A couple clicks here and there and the plane flew
>> great!  The OS 140 has PLENTY of power and started right up!
>>
>> During the second flight after about 8 minutes the pipe slipped out
>> of the coupler and I had to land. A little rough, with a bounce but no
>> damage. The rudder is so sensitive that I over corrected a bit
>> and the nose dropped down suddenly and I touched down a little
>> harder then I would like.
>>
>> The third flight was all joy! I fixed my pipe problem and I could not
>> believe how nice and smooth this plane made me look!
>>
>> A few things that jumped out that need trimming...
>>
>> The balance seems fine at 8" from the leading edge at the root.
>>
>> It seems to have a bit to much right thrust with the 16.5 x 12 2 blade
>> prop but I think that can be mixed out for now until I see how it acts
>> with other props.
>>
>> In knife edge going right with the canopy facing me it pushes a bit to
>> the wheels. In knife edge going left with the canopy facing me it
>> pulls just a little to the canopy.
>>
>> I will start working my way through the trimming guide next time out.
>>
>> Thanks again for everyones help!
>>
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