[NSRCA-discussion] Maneuver 4 Masters pattern

Tue Dec 5 05:05:15 AKST 2006

This is maneuver where a wide body helps a bit.  I've watched Juan fly
this with his Brio and Smaragd (RIP).  Also, I let a new cross-over
pattern pilot (from IMAC Unlimited class, intends to fly pattern and
IMAC next year) fly my Aggressor a few flights this weekend.  He flew
this maneuver fairly compact at around 1/3 throttle (YS 160, 3B DL
15.75x10).  He had no box issue at all with it.  

Thanks,

Jim W.

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Archie
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Exactly...gotta make sure that you use EVERY inch of the box on the
stall coming into it, and get into the 2 or 2 quickly and then you can
really make it fairly easy.

Arch

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Arch

OK we're on the same page now...The 2 of 2 slow roll opposite...I have
been ending the 2 of 2 well before center and starting the slow roll
before center and then it fits in the box for me.

Jim Ivey

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	From: Archie Stafford <mailto:rcpattern at stx.rr.com>  

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	Jim,

	I was referring to the 2 of 2 slow roll opposite...he had
referred " Who decided that the of two followed by a slow roll should be
done on center :-)  I have yet to fit that in the box :-)  

	To those that have figured it out; what part of the sequence is
coming out on center (besides the middle)?" that is why I responded with
that statement.  I know the 2 of 4 opposites are centered there.  I was
referring to the other maneuver.

	Arch

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	Maybe you are thinking of the 2 of 2 point ...slow roll rev.
As I understand that one is centered from the 1st rolling segment to the
end of the last rolling segment.

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		From: Archie Stafford <mailto:rcpattern at stx.rr.com>  

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		That really isn't that difficult to find center.  Center
is the middle of maneuver from beginning to end.  Since the rolling
elements are different there isn't a defined center.  Look at where the
maneuver starts and where it stops and see if the entire maneuver is
centered.  There will not be a true center point.

		Arch Stafford

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Stuart
Chale
		Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 8:00 PM
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pattern

		At least that one has an obvious center and is a normal
length center maneuver.  Who decided that the of two followed by a slow
roll should be done on center :-)  I have yet to fit that in the box :-)

		To those that have figured it out; what part of the
sequence is coming out on center (besides the middle)?  

		Stuart

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		Jim,

		I'm not worried about center right now, I'm just trying
to get through it!!! : )

		Greg Grigsby

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