[NSRCA-discussion] Electric/Glow Pros and Cons
Chad Northeast
chad at f3acanada.org
Wed Aug 9 20:36:01 AKDT 2006
Join the 65C club Dave!!!
Chad
Dave Lockhart wrote:
>Seeing the lipo temps I did at the NATs made me feel pretty good I'll be on
>the high side of the average for lipo longevity! <G>
>
>A couple guys flew in quite a bit of rain in the finals, and my last flight
>was quite rainy. With the wind from my back, and a 6+ foot
>windblock/caller/Dad behind me, I didn't get as wet as I might have, and my
>TX (my biggest concern) stayed pretty dry. I checked the inside of the
>plane immediately after the flight, and found no (none, zero, nada) water
>droplets or moist surfaces inside the nose of the plane.
>
>Regards,
>Dave
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Chad
>Northeast
>Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 6:49 PM
>To: NSRCA Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electric/Glow Pros and Cons
>
>I had 6 packs at the Nats, 4 of them had between 100-110 cycles, 2 of
>them had 30 cycles.....I didnt pick or choose, they all flew a round
>here and there during the contest. In fact I flew my oldest set (built
>June 5 of last year) during the Finals.
>
>There is no discernable performance difference in the packs while
>flying. All of them have been abused somewhat (ask Dave L what I do to
>my batteries ;) )....sat over winter at a wide variety of charge
>levels. They are the same packs I flew in France last summer at the WC's.
>
>All in all I think they have been pretty solid, I dont think I have done
>anything special to them to prolong life. Although I will guess that
>the failure will be abrupt and could come at any time now....so I wont
>hazard a guess as to how long I think they will last. I think its been
>calculated before around 150-200 cycles to break even compared to a
>160DZ on 30%. Thats with $600 give or take packs.
>
>Flying in the rain....I have not had a problem, and I would be much more
>concerned about my Tx getting wet than my motor, or other components in
>the plane.
>
>Chad
>
>vicenterc at comcast.net wrote:
>
>
>
>>Dave,
>>
>>That is why underline AVERAGE. That is the number we need. This is
>>like when we go to las Vegas. We are very open and willing to
>>inform how much we WIN but we never tell how much we loose. Well is
>>also similar to how much we spend in this hobby. I always tell my
>>wife that is cheaper than bars and women but the real number is a secret.
>>
>>Vicente "Vince" Bortone
>>
>>
>> -------------- Original message --------------
>> From: DaveL322 at comcast.net
>> Closer to 220 accumulated from spring of 2005 to spring of 2006,
>> at which time they were shifted to sport use. In any case, I'm
>> not aware of many packs going 200+ flights for pattern use.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Dave Lockhart
>> DaveL322 at comcast.net <mailto:DaveL322 at comcast.net>
>>
>>
>>
>> -------------- Original message --------------
>> From: "Scott Anderson" <scott at rcfoamy.com>
>>
>> > Joe,
>> > your right but that was after hitting 300..
>> > anyhow food for thought..
>> >
>> > s.
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Joe Lachowski"
>> > To:
>> > Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 1:27 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electric/Glow Pros and Cons
>> >
>> >
>> > > Yeah, but I believe that pack has been religated to sport
>> use though.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >>From: "Scott Anderson"
>> > >>Reply-To: NSRCA Mailing List
>> > >>To: "NSRCA Mailing List"
>> > >>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electric/Glow Pros and C!
>> ! ons < BR>> >>Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 13:23:42 -0400
>> > >>
>> > >>Dan Landis has about 300 flights on a set of Tanic 10s
>> packs...
>> > >>
>> > >>scott anderson
>> > >>Team Tanicpacks.com
>> > >>Team Castle Creations
>> > >>----- Original Message -----
>> > >>From: "Adam Glatt"
>> > >>To: "NSRCA Mailing List"
>> > >>Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 1:23 PM
>> > >>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electric/Glow Pros and Cons
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> >I put 40-50 cycles on my packs last year and then sold
>> them last Fall
>> > >> > for half of retail price. So make that $325 / 50flights
>> = $6.5/flight.
>> > >> > Still very expensive - the cost of batteries must come
>> down for
>> > >> > electric
>> > >> > to be for everyone.
>> > >&! gt;! ; > Adam Glatt
>> > >> > Team Thunder Power
>> > >> >
>> > >> > vicenterc at comcast.net wrote:
>> > >> >> 60 cycles _average _sounds correct base on the
>> information I got from
>> > >> >> a well know pattern pilot. Therefore the approximate
>> cost is about
>> > >> >> $10/flight. Glow engines are around $2-3/flight.
>> Definitively cost
>> > >> >> is an important part of the decision process.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Vicente "Vince" Bortone
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> -------------- Original message --------------
>> > >> >> From: "Richard Strickland"
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> > Just how much did Jay PAY for those batts? And that
>> is part of
>> > >> >> my point-for
>> > >> >> > non sponsored! guys! -batter y care and feeding is a
>> real issue to
>> > >> >> stretch cycle
>> > >> >> > times. Even if he paid list, it's his job, in
>> effect. Most of us
>> > >> >> are
>> > >> >> > scrambling to find the best we can for the money and
>> then trying
>> > >> >> to protect
>> > >> >> > the investment. And many guys don't know there's care
>> > >> >> required-until the
>> > >> >> > batteries shoot craps at 60 cycles.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > RS
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> > >> >> > From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>> > >> >> > [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On
>> Behalf Of
>> > >> >> Scott Smith
>> > >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 6:02 ! PM
>> &! gt; > ;> >> > To: NSRCA Mailing List
>> > >> >> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discu! ssion] Electric/Glow Pros
>> and Cons
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > But why keep 'em cool? I saw Jason sitting in his
>> van with the
>> > >> >> engine
>> > >> >> > running at the Nat's on Thursday with his batteries
>> up on the
>> > >> >> dash...I don't
>> > >> >> > think he had the AC running!
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > I too am on the fence and have decided to give E a
>> try for next
>> > >> >> year as it
>> > >> >> > will allow me to fly at local turf farms where glow
>> fuel is not
>> > >> >> allowed.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Anybody interested in a glow Brio?
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Scott
>> > &g! t;> >> ! > *> >> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> > >> >> > From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>> > >> >> > [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On
>> Behalf Of
>> > >> >> Jay
>> > >> >> > Marshall
>> > >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 6:40 PM
>> > >> >> > To: 'NSRCA Mailing List'
>> > >> >> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electric/Glow Pros
>> and Cons
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Sounds like a foam cooler and a bag of ice should
>> keep them
>> > >> >> cool.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> > >> >> > From:! nsrca- discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>> > >> >> > [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On
>> Be! half Of
>> > &g! t;> >> Richard
>> > >> >> > Strickland
>> > >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 6:36 PM
>> > >> >> > To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
>> > >> >> > Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Electric/Glow Pros and Cons
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Just having a debate with myself on the pros and
>> cons for the
>> > >> >> long haul.....
>> > >> >> > Seems like it's been hovering around 95-100F around
>> here since
>> > >> >> early June.
>> > >> >> > I'm not liking the fairly significant batt. temp.
>> rise from
>> > >> >> ambient. (batt.
>> > >> >> > life issues) The batts have to sit in a fairly hot
>> car all
>> > >> >> day-charged for
>> > >> >> > practice in the evening. I have to make a decision
>> the nite b4
>> > &! gt;> >> to fly o! r
>> & gt; >> >> > not the next day to charge. Batteries are still
>> damned expensive
>> > >> >> even if
>> > >> >> > you get a decent deal and the jury is still out on
>> longevity
>> > >> >> Gotta grease
>> > >> >> > things fairly often. Heavy. But they are cleaner and
>> easier to
>> > >> >> manage at
>> > >> >> > the field! . Glow engines, when driven to the
>> max-like I do-tend
>> > >> >> to have
>> > >> >> > their own share of issues, somewhat messy, and
>> require more
>> > >> >> field equipment
>> > >> >> > at the line. The bigger units require A LOT of fuel
>> to make all
>> > >> >> that power.
>> > >> >> > But I feel I can fly them no matter how hot it is
>> and not worry
>> > >> >> about them
>> > >> >> &g! t; (as much). Deciding to fly is! a matt er of
>> just GOING.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > I'm just throwing this out there in case anyone else
>> is having
>> > >> >> similar
>> > >> >> > thoughts... ho-hum...
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > RS
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >
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>>From:
>>DaveL322 at comcast.net
>>Date:
>>Wed, 9 Aug 2006 18:10:11 +0000
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