[NSRCA-discussion] Electric/Glow Pros and Cons
Chad Northeast
chad at f3acanada.org
Wed Aug 9 14:50:53 AKDT 2006
I had 6 packs at the Nats, 4 of them had between 100-110 cycles, 2 of
them had 30 cycles.....I didnt pick or choose, they all flew a round
here and there during the contest. In fact I flew my oldest set (built
June 5 of last year) during the Finals.
There is no discernable performance difference in the packs while
flying. All of them have been abused somewhat (ask Dave L what I do to
my batteries ;) )....sat over winter at a wide variety of charge
levels. They are the same packs I flew in France last summer at the WC's.
All in all I think they have been pretty solid, I dont think I have done
anything special to them to prolong life. Although I will guess that
the failure will be abrupt and could come at any time now....so I wont
hazard a guess as to how long I think they will last. I think its been
calculated before around 150-200 cycles to break even compared to a
160DZ on 30%. Thats with $600 give or take packs.
Flying in the rain....I have not had a problem, and I would be much more
concerned about my Tx getting wet than my motor, or other components in
the plane.
Chad
vicenterc at comcast.net wrote:
> Dave,
>
> That is why underline AVERAGE. That is the number we need. This is
> like when we go to las Vegas. We are very open and willing to
> inform how much we WIN but we never tell how much we loose. Well is
> also similar to how much we spend in this hobby. I always tell my
> wife that is cheaper than bars and women but the real number is a secret.
>
> Vicente "Vince" Bortone
>
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: DaveL322 at comcast.net
> Closer to 220 accumulated from spring of 2005 to spring of 2006,
> at which time they were shifted to sport use. In any case, I'm
> not aware of many packs going 200+ flights for pattern use.
>
> Regards,
>
> Dave Lockhart
> DaveL322 at comcast.net <mailto:DaveL322 at comcast.net>
>
>
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "Scott Anderson" <scott at rcfoamy.com>
>
> > Joe,
> > your right but that was after hitting 300..
> > anyhow food for thought..
> >
> > s.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Joe Lachowski"
> > To:
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 1:27 PM
> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electric/Glow Pros and Cons
> >
> >
> > > Yeah, but I believe that pack has been religated to sport
> use though.
> > >
> > >
> > >>From: "Scott Anderson"
> > >>Reply-To: NSRCA Mailing List
> > >>To: "NSRCA Mailing List"
> > >>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electric/Glow Pros and C!
> ! ons < BR>> >>Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 13:23:42 -0400
> > >>
> > >>Dan Landis has about 300 flights on a set of Tanic 10s
> packs...
> > >>
> > >>scott anderson
> > >>Team Tanicpacks.com
> > >>Team Castle Creations
> > >>----- Original Message -----
> > >>From: "Adam Glatt"
> > >>To: "NSRCA Mailing List"
> > >>Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 1:23 PM
> > >>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electric/Glow Pros and Cons
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> >I put 40-50 cycles on my packs last year and then sold
> them last Fall
> > >> > for half of retail price. So make that $325 / 50flights
> = $6.5/flight.
> > >> > Still very expensive - the cost of batteries must come
> down for
> > >> > electric
> > >> > to be for everyone.
> > >&! gt;! ; > Adam Glatt
> > >> > Team Thunder Power
> > >> >
> > >> > vicenterc at comcast.net wrote:
> > >> >> 60 cycles _average _sounds correct base on the
> information I got from
> > >> >> a well know pattern pilot. Therefore the approximate
> cost is about
> > >> >> $10/flight. Glow engines are around $2-3/flight.
> Definitively cost
> > >> >> is an important part of the decision process.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Vicente "Vince" Bortone
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> -------------- Original message --------------
> > >> >> From: "Richard Strickland"
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > Just how much did Jay PAY for those batts? And that
> is part of
> > >> >> my point-for
> > >> >> > non sponsored! guys! -batter y care and feeding is a
> real issue to
> > >> >> stretch cycle
> > >> >> > times. Even if he paid list, it's his job, in
> effect. Most of us
> > >> >> are
> > >> >> > scrambling to find the best we can for the money and
> then trying
> > >> >> to protect
> > >> >> > the investment. And many guys don't know there's care
> > >> >> required-until the
> > >> >> > batteries shoot craps at 60 cycles.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > RS
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > -----Original Message-----
> > >> >> > From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> > >> >> > [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On
> Behalf Of
> > >> >> Scott Smith
> > >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 6:02 ! PM
> &! gt; > ;> >> > To: NSRCA Mailing List
> > >> >> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discu! ssion] Electric/Glow Pros
> and Cons
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > But why keep 'em cool? I saw Jason sitting in his
> van with the
> > >> >> engine
> > >> >> > running at the Nat's on Thursday with his batteries
> up on the
> > >> >> dash...I don't
> > >> >> > think he had the AC running!
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > I too am on the fence and have decided to give E a
> try for next
> > >> >> year as it
> > >> >> > will allow me to fly at local turf farms where glow
> fuel is not
> > >> >> allowed.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Anybody interested in a glow Brio?
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Scott
> > &g! t;> >> ! > *> >> >> > -----Original Message-----
> > >> >> > From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> > >> >> > [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On
> Behalf Of
> > >> >> Jay
> > >> >> > Marshall
> > >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 6:40 PM
> > >> >> > To: 'NSRCA Mailing List'
> > >> >> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electric/Glow Pros
> and Cons
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Sounds like a foam cooler and a bag of ice should
> keep them
> > >> >> cool.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > -----Original Message-----
> > >> >> > From:! nsrca- discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> > >> >> > [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On
> Be! half Of
> > &g! t;> >> Richard
> > >> >> > Strickland
> > >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 6:36 PM
> > >> >> > To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
> > >> >> > Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Electric/Glow Pros and Cons
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Just having a debate with myself on the pros and
> cons for the
> > >> >> long haul.....
> > >> >> > Seems like it's been hovering around 95-100F around
> here since
> > >> >> early June.
> > >> >> > I'm not liking the fairly significant batt. temp.
> rise from
> > >> >> ambient. (batt.
> > >> >> > life issues) The batts have to sit in a fairly hot
> car all
> > >> >> day-charged for
> > >> >> > practice in the evening. I have to make a decision
> the nite b4
> > &! gt;> >> to fly o! r
> & gt; >> >> > not the next day to charge. Batteries are still
> damned expensive
> > >> >> even if
> > >> >> > you get a decent deal and the jury is still out on
> longevity
> > >> >> Gotta grease
> > >> >> > things fairly often. Heavy. But they are cleaner and
> easier to
> > >> >> manage at
> > >> >> > the field! . Glow engines, when driven to the
> max-like I do-tend
> > >> >> to have
> > >> >> > their own share of issues, somewhat messy, and
> require more
> > >> >> field equipment
> > >> >> > at the line. The bigger units require A LOT of fuel
> to make all
> > >> >> that power.
> > >> >> > But I feel I can fly them no matter how hot it is
> and not worry
> > >> >> about them
> > >> >> &g! t; (as much). Deciding to fly is! a matt er of
> just GOING.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > I'm just throwing this out there in case anyone else
> is having
> > >> >> similar
> > >> >> > thoughts... ho-hum...
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > RS
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
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> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electric/Glow Pros and Cons
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> DaveL322 at comcast.net
> Date:
> Wed, 9 Aug 2006 18:10:11 +0000
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