[NSRCA-discussion] me, at the Nats
george w. kennie
geobet at gis.net
Thu Aug 3 09:43:23 AKDT 2006
See what I mean guys, about the people ??????????? Who could not help but love all these guys???
Y'know, when I write all this fun stuff, I realize that there are some people that are going to be a little confused as to the reasoning and the merits of such an exercise.It's just a record of my perspective of how I would evaluate performances if I was in the chair. As I pointed out, it doesn't mean that I know what I'm doing, but you would probably experience some opposition trying to convince me otherwise.
When I left the Nats for home, my feeling at the time, was that the judges had probably gotten it pretty close to RIGHT (and who really knows, maybe they did), but when I ran my numbers I was as surprised as anyone.
After seeing Jason fly in 2004 where I thought he was a little smoother than everyone else, my reaction to his flying this year was that he was a little bit off his form and I really thought that the third place finish was, in all probability, justified, based on my gut reaction to observations of his sequences. Same thing with Andrew. There was something about Andrew's flights that made you feel that he was just a tad less smooth/graceful than the QQ's, Hyde's, Shulman's, Szczur's, but you know what worked in his favor, which I discovered when I ran the numbers? Same thing worked for Jay! Those buggars hit the high K-factor maneuvers more consistantly than the other competitors. I'm tellin' you, that Andrew has tremendous potential and I can't emphasize that enough. If I was one of the really big boys, I'd keep an eye over my shoulder.
To all you guys who were so wonderfully supportive my deepest thanks. I have a tendency to be a little emotional and I have to admit a couple of you got to me.
Oh, Jay, I don't think I have all of the stuff from the P-07 qualifiers so I can't help you there. I'll keep that in mind for next year, and if I forget remind me.
Thanks everybody !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Georgie
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From: JShulman
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Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 11:58 AM
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John, couldn't say it better myself. Anyone that goes to the Nats, doesn't fly, but "judges" for fun, must love the hobby. Only time I'll be doing that is when both my thumbs are broken. George has his perspective on the way the Nats resulted, just like any one else who is judging. Now if I can stop getting him to tease me about my hair...lol.
Regards,
Jason
www.jasonshulman.com
www.shulmanaviation.com
www.composite-arf.com
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From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of John Ferrell
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:32 AM
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Georgie is our #1 spectator and fan at the nats. His enthusiasm and dedication sets him apart from all other spectators. He has no axe to grind, he is there for the fun of it!
He acknowledges the limitations of not being positioned in the judges line and expects to score a little different as a result.
His motive is quite simply to have a great time at the Nats and he does. We need more Georgies!
I would be very comfortable flying before only one judge if that judge were Georgie...
John Ferrell W8CCW
"My Competition is not my enemy"
http://DixieNC.US
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From: rcmaster199 at aol.com
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Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 9:15 PM
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Am I reading this correctly?? Is this a flight of fancy of one individual would-be judge? Was George a Finals judge and he decided to share his scores with the viewers?
What's the point of this scenario? I don't follow
MattK
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From: jshulman at cfl.rr.com
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Sent: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 7:52 PM
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Hi George,
Great write-up, again, and as always it's fun seeing how you scored us. It was great to sit and chat with you at the times we did.
I really enjoyed this years Nats. I made it a point to make this a FUN Nats for myself, my friends and anyone that was around me. I think it happened. But I think it drained me of most of my energy, so next year I'll have to be more "serious".
Just for fun, I dropped the lowest of each F-07 and Unknowns like we would to determine the winner and the results are as follows:
Jay F-07-1 = 998, Unk -2 = 1000 Total = 1998
Chip F-07-2 = 971, Unk -2 = 997 Total = 1968
Don F-07-1 = 965, Unk - 1 =1000 Total = 1965
Sean F-07-2 = 984, Unk - 1 = 978 Total = 1962
QQ F-07-1 = 959, Unk - 1 = 987 Total = 1946
Andrew F-07-1 = 1000, Unk-2 = 942 Total = 1942
Dave L F-07-2 = 946, Unk - 1 = 959 Total = 1905
Chad F-07-1 = 895, Unk-2 = 911 Total = 1806
As you can see, the results changed a little bit: 1st = Jay, 2nd = Chip, 3rd = Don, 4th = Sean, 5th = QQ, 6th = Andrew, 7th = Dave L., 8th = Chad
Anyone else have a "score card" to add to the fun?
Hey George, if you feel like it, how about posting the results of the Finalists P-07 rounds? See how a "Team" would have done.
Regards,
Jason
www.jasonshulman.com
www.shulmanaviation.com
www.composite-arf.com
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From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of george w. kennie
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 7:23 PM
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OK Guys, here goes............................
2006 Nats is history and being there was, as always, a priviledge that I will probably not be able to enjoy for too many more years, but the experience creates an indelible memory event that burns in your psyche for an indefinite period of time.
The really special part of the experience is the people. I think that this is my 5th year and renewing aquaintances previously made and meeting new people is fabulous. I arrived Sat nite and got my tent set up in it's usual place and realized that it was still light out as this is the first year that Indiana has gone on Daylight Savings time so it was light out 'til almost quarter to ten. There was more than one nite that Sean McMurtry was actually flying at 9:30 P.M.
Sunday morning saw me out on the flight line early and Troy was putting up some practice flights and we spent a few minutes discussing/sharing flight elements and execution anomalies and corrective inputs. Received so many familiar hellos from the likes of Earl, Robert G., Harry Ells, the Canadians, the D1 guys, and so many that they are too numerous to mention. Also spent quite a few minutes talking with Sean who is a real friendly individual and a real gentleman, who informed me that he was competing with Naruke's actual airplane. That thing was gorgeous and the detail of the craftsmanship was astounding.The pipe mount was to die for! Instantaneously removable and absolutely foolproof ! What a work of art.
Up to now I had been at site 1 so I decided to go over to site 3 and see what was going on over there. As I was driving over, I thought to myself, "it's only 9:30 and if this was over right now, I have already had the greatest time, and the contest hasn't even started yet. At site 3 it was almost a repeat of greetings and after a settling down period I started to watch some practice flights. Jim Woodward showed that his efforts over the last year were not wasted as his flying was top notch.Jim decided that his electric was not giving him the best opportunity for the scores he felt he was capable of so after a couple of days with the electric he made the switch to glow and felt that he did indeed improve his standings.
At one point, I was sitting out under the judges sunshade during a practice session observing the flyers executing their sequences and who pulls up a chair and begins to chat , but Jason. Now I have to tell you that Jason really didn't know me from Adam and yet he was the most affable friendly guy you could ever hope to meet. I teased the daylights out of him about getting a haircut and tried a whole bunch of stuff to rattle his cage and he would just come back with a quick quip and put you totally at ease. What a wonderful kid !!!!!!!!!! I love'im (and no, that didn't influence my scores)
All the old stand-bys were there to keep everything running smoothly. Bobby Stout, John and Bill, Jerry P., line chiefs that I didn't know, but everybody did a teriffic job of making it a well run event.
I met some neat new guys on site 4. There was a fellow flying a Nat Penton Voodoo Express ( I think his name was Lewis). Another kid flying an Adrenaline named Paul Futey. It was great to see again Carl Zavalney, and Keith Black and it's impossible to remember everybody, but like I said, you really feel that this is a special experience.
Monday morning I got into my trusty chair behind the flight line and did some P07 scoring to try to sharpen up my judging skills in preparation for the real serious stuff. I Scored the guys that I thought would be in the thick of it at the end on site one, first round. One individual that impressed me was Chad Northeast.Chad was flying an airplane called a Twister that I think is a Synergy derivitive powered by a Plettenberg electric and it was balletic. The plane flew, what appeared to me, to fly slower than anybody else's electric and Chad was quite precise in his execution. I let him know that I thought he was doing well after his flight. I discovered later when I checked my numbers that his scores were a little lower than most of the top guys, but there's something about his presentation that keeps you rivetted. His is indeed a very pleasant presentation. After that round I went to site 3 and scored a few guys over there, knowing that at this juncture in time, all t! hat I was doing was getting a feel for consistancy.
The first 3 days were spent trying to get my head to interpret what my eyes were seeing, but on the 4th day things really got heated up ( of course Muncie was it's usual high temp environment as well). I feel that being away from the competition environment for a year and being a year older that I'm starting to lose a little of my sharpness and judging ability as I was concious at times that I was occasionally missing a few things, but I think the overall relativity of the scores that I arrived at are still consistant within that envelope.
I found out that my position, 50 feet behind the judges does not afford me a view of the box constraints and although I scored Troy quite highly, I was advised later that he had quite a few box violations because he flew in too close which knocked him out of the finals.Needless to say, I was saddened to learn of this as he takes the sport very seriously and I like to see him do well. He had a really nice airplane and flew it with the skill of the top eschelon pilots.
Since returning home I have been quite busy so haven't had time to get to my scoring etchings till now. Seeing as Vicente was kind enough to send us Northerners a good dose of Kansas weather (it's 100 degrees here today) I have been quarantined to the indoors with a little extra time so I thought I would pull out my score sheets and run the numbers in order to see how I stacked up against the official results.
This number thing is a real revelation. It seems to indicate trends and weaknesses and consistancy of each individual. Sometimes as you begin to tabulate the results it can get pretty scary when there are only 5 points separating the first 4 guys you've totalled. I felt, before I left for the Nats this year, that it was probably going to be a tight race, with Sean and Jason in attendance and was looking forward to the outcome with great anticipation.
Last year I felt that Chip flew poorly and I was surprised to hear that he had done well at the Worlds. Well I have to tell you that this year he vindicated himself on my scorecard.He seems to have the ability to do better when the pressure is greatest and really comes through.
The day of the finals was a nightmare !!!!!!!!!!! The day started out overcast, but not excessively windy, so the first round of F07 presented no more problems than anticipated and everyone flew O.K.
Next came the first unknown and you begin to see in the scores areas of weaknesses and strengths in the different individuals. Some individuals displayed tremendous consistancy no matter what was thrown at them with their scores staying within close proximities (Chad, Chip, Jay, QQ). It's probably unfair to some individuals to rate them in exactly this way due to rthe extreme weather that blew in for the last couple of rounds.This contest may have had a totally different outcome without the extremes of weather that these poor souls had to tolerate. In the final round, Dave L and Don were required to fly in winds that were just under the threshold (40mph) and it hadn't let up very much when Chip flew last and almost won the round on my scorecard.
Please remember, these are only MY reflections, and there is no way to verify my qualifications for my conclusions or even indicate that I know what I'm talking about, however, what is certainly true is that these eight individuals flew very difficult sequences in a manner that was exemplary and with extremely closely matched performances. This was tight flying my friends !!!!!!!!
Here's what I have:
Andrew, F-07-1 = 1000, F-07-2 = 1000, Unk -1 = 937, Unk-2 = 942 Total = 3879
Chad, F-07-1 = 895, F-07-2 = 894, Unk - 1 = 895, Unk-2 = 911 Total = 3595
Chip, F-07-1 = 964, F-07-2 = 971, Unk - 1 = 989, Unk -2 = 997 Total = 3921
Dave L F-07-1 = 905, F-07-2 = 946, Unk - 1 = 959, Unk -2 = 903 Total = 3713
Don F-07-1 = 965, F-07-2 = 954, Unk - 1 =1000, Unk -2 = 923 Total = 3842
Jay F-07-1 = 998, F-07-2 = 961, Unk - 1 = 989, Unk -2 = 1000 Total = 3948
Sean F-07-1 = 960, F-07-2 = 984, Unk - 1 = 978, Unk - 2 = 879 Total = 3801
QQ F-07-1 = 959, F-07-2 = 958, Unk - 1 = 987, Unk - 2 = 942 Total = 3846
My numbers indicate an order of finish as follows: 1st = Jay, 2nd = Chip, 3rd = Andrew, 4th = QQ, 5th = Don, 6th = Sean, 7th = Dave L., 8th = Chad .
I had no idea what these numbers were going to show until today and am as surprised as anybody. I think Chad's one point consistancy over the first three rounds astounding. Chip worked at keeping his scores up every round to win a well deserved second. Andrew, make yourself up an unknown sequence every week and work on unfamiliar stuff. It's obvious you nail everything you get to practice (you surprised me). Don was unfairly sentenced in the final round. Just wait 'til next year.
Great work you guys !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Georgie
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