[NSRCA-discussion] Electrics

Chad Northeast chadnortheast at shaw.ca
Fri Apr 14 17:26:32 AKDT 2006


The 1010C consumes 250W peak while charging a 10s @5A (measured consumption during charge between charger and PS)....
Just an FYI for those trying to figure out how much charing power they will need.

So in other words the Iota @ 740W peak wont handle 3 1010C's.

The draw from the PS is probably slightly more due to additional losses.

Chad
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It is just a matter of Watts, the power supply that makes 13.6V, the =
charger capability and the packs.  My TP1010 can charge 10s at 5 amps =
which is 1C for a TP 5300 10s4p.  It can charge the 5s4p at 10 Amps =
which is 2C.  Smaller packs could be charged at 3C.  In my case the =
chargers limit the capability to about 200 Watts each.  The generator =
can deliver 1000W.  The Iota power supply has a limit of about 750 =
Watts.   =20
Just type in Honda 1000i in Google.  I paid about $650.  It only weighs =
28 pounds and it starts on the first pull.  I love this stuff.

Jim O
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  Jim
  Can you go to 2 or 3C charging with the Honda ? Can I see the Honda on =
the web ?              Thanks     Nat
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    I bought the Honda and am very happy with it.  I can run two 10s =
chargers at once so it should pay for itself pretty fast if one needed =
two marine batteries per year.
    Jim O
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      Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Electrics


      The only battery giving me a problem is the lead acid Marine 'deep =
discharge'  battery used for field charging of the lipos. It has lost =
about 70% of it's capacity in seven months.

      It provided six 12min flts when new and was purchased from Academy =
Surplus for $40. It has provided a total of maybe 80 flights ( 30 cycles =
??? ). The problem is likely due to my maintenance ( lack thereof ). I =
left the battery in a partial discharge state sometmes for weeks. You =
can find maintenance needs on Google at agmbatteries, courtesy Earl =
Haury.

      West Mountain sells a gell cell, 54#, 84ah, rated for 500 cycles @ =
100% discharge ( 20hr discharge rate ), $149 del. I will see how it =
performs under our conditions.
                                                            Nat


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jim O</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I bought the Honda and am very =
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      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The only battery giving me a =
problem is the=20
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field=20
      charging of&nbsp;the lipos. It has lost about 70% of it's capacity =
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      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It provided six 12min flts when =
new and was=20
      purchased from Academy Surplus for $40. It&nbsp;has provided a =
total of=20
      maybe 80 flights ( 30 cycles ??? ). The problem is likely due to =
my=20
      maintenance (&nbsp;lack thereof ). I left the battery in a partial =

      discharge state sometmes for weeks. </FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>You can=20
      find maintenance needs on Google at agmbatteries, courtesy Earl=20
      Haury.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>West Mountain sells a gell cell, =
54#, 84ah,=20
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$149 del. I=20
      will see how it performs under our conditions.</FONT></DIV>
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