[NSRCA-discussion] The Pilot

John Pavlick jpavlick at idseng.com
Mon Apr 3 20:26:09 AKDT 2006 

Ed,
 How about pizza and beer instead (AFTER the contest). See you at Pocono...

John Pavlick
http://www.idseng.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Ed Alt
> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 11:36 PM
> To: patternrules at earthlink.net; NSRCA Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] The Pilot
>
>
> I didn't know we had such a big issue re. sponsored Intermediate/Advanced
> guys beating up on everyone else.  C'mon guys, this is starting to sound
> like what they've done to Tee-Ball.  There's no losers, you're
> all winners.
> No red ink when grading Johnnie's test in school either, it might
> hurt his
> self esteem.   Aaaarggh!
>
> I have the answer.  The CD should take ALL the flyers out for ice cream
> after the contest.
>
> Ed
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steven Maxwell" <patternrules at earthlink.net>
> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 11:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] The Pilot
>
>
> > Now that's not a bad idea Eric, plagues aren't that much and if
> they place
> > that high will probably only be once, they'll probably get
> sponsors after
> > that.
> >
> > Steven Maxwell
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> [Original Message]
> >> From: Grow Pattern <pattern4u at comcast.net>
> >> To: NSRCA Mailing List <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> >> Date: 4/3/2006 10:38:33 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] The Pilot
> >>
> >> BTW - in my original postings I was only leading to suggesting the
> > thought
> >> that the winners who are not sponsored should be recognized within a
> > class
> >> and or given their own "highest amateur award, or something like that.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Eric.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "White, Chris" <chris at ssd.fsi.com>
> >> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> >> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 2:54 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] The Pilot
> >>
> >>
> >> >I wish to offend no one, but wanted to give another perspective.
> >> >
> >> > I'm SURE that sponsorship is an advantage....but it is still
> up to the
> >> > pilot to get out there and practice with determination and
> the intent
> >> > to
> >> > be the best he can be.  Yeah, I wish I didn't have to risk so much
> >> > money
> >> > every time that bird goes in the air. But, sponsorship
> probably doesn't
> >> > buy personal satisfaction for many.  We are all trying to be
> the best
> >> > we
> >> > can even if our funds or participation is limited.  We are
> striving for
> >> > that perfect flight, for equipment that is reliable, for
> airplanes that
> >> > keep getting better, for friendships that grow & grow. We could
> >> > probably
> >> > spend far less money and buy trophies or plaques...but the
> real value
> >> > in
> >> > competition is FUN....FUN....FUN.  It doesn't seem to matter
> where I've
> >> > been...I've had a great time and everyone helps everyone get their
> >> > rounds in...even if they know that pilot could beat them out of that
> >> > round.  Never have I seen so many good people, trying so
> hard to become
> >> > their personal best no matter what their interest in
> competition.  Some
> >> > guys are striving to be the best pilots, best designers,
> best builders,
> >> > best innovators...but mainly they are trying to see that competition
> >> > flying stays healthy and will do their dead-level best to promote
> >> > anyone
> >> > to their best.  I haven't flown with anyone I didn't like, admire or
> >> > respect in one way or another.  Sponsors...please keep
> sponsoring...may
> >> > you sell tons of stuff and may the sport live on and
> prosper.  Thanks
> >> > to
> >> > anyone who encourages another...that is what makes the sport
> grow. I've
> >> > been blessed to see few sour grapes....most of the guys are
> just glad
> >> > to
> >> > spend a weekend flying their best with friends, family and new
> >> > acquaintances.
> >> >
> >> > To all the sponsored guys....thanks for your promotion, hard
> work, and
> >> > for showing us your skills.  I love to watch good flying
> regardless of
> >> > who's doing it, or how many advantages they may have...more power to
> >> > you!  I was fortunate enough to spend a nats next door to Quique and
> >> > his
> >> > family.  I caught Quique at his van checking equipment, as I
> was doing,
> >> > and we talked for a while.  I discovered that this great pilot loves
> >> > all
> >> > this stuff just like I do.... You top guys just keep flying
> pretty and
> >> > we'll always have something to aim for....:)  Oh, and along the
> >> > way...thanks for the show!
> >> >
> >> > "It's not the destination, It's the Journey"   (What makes
> the journey
> >> > worthwhile?)
> >> >
> >> > In any case, I wish to participate to any degree that I can.
> Sometimes
> >> > when I'm practicing I see something come together really well and it
> >> > makes me feel precise..and I'm like: "Yeah baby"....that's
> why I like
> >> > to
> >> > fly pattern!
> >> >
> >> > Chris
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> >> > [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf
> Of Michael
> >> > Wickizer
> >> > Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 12:49 PM
> >> > To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
> >> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] The Pilot
> >> >
> >> > How many pilots in Intermediate and Advanced have an advantage due to
> >> > sponsorship?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>From: "Del K. Rykert" <drykert2 at rochester.rr.com>
> >> >>Reply-To: NSRCA Mailing List <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> >> >>To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> >> >>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] The Pilot
> >> >>Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 11:42:13 -0400
> >> >>
> >> >>Sponsorship does have negative aspects also Nat.  Well true, that the
> >> >>majority of sponsored pilots have garnered their sponsorship through
> >> > their
> >> >>genuine ability this has not always been the case. Sponsorship, can
> >> > give
> >> >>some pilots, if all other things are equal regarding skill an
> >> > advantage. Is
> >> >>very similar to the argument that it is not the equipment... BUT the
> >> > skill
> >> >>of the pilot that is truly the difference. The truth is better
> >> > equipment,
> >> >>whether obtained through ones own pockets that may be deeper than
> >> > others or
> >> >>through sponsorship does make the workload less for the competitive
> >> > pilot
> >> >>so they can focus more of their energy on improving their
> skills.  The
> >> >>disadvantaged always have a harder time overcoming obstacles
> that money
> >> > or
> >> >>sponsorship does allow. IMHO.
> >> >>     The raw numbers of competitors is low enough without
> making a new
> >> >>group of sponsored pilots. But it might help if sponsored pilots were
> >> > only
> >> >>allowed in the Masters & FAI classes if there ever was a need to
> >> > address
> >> >>the issue.
> >> >>
> >> >>                  Del
> >> >>           nsrca - 473
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>   ----- Original Message -----
> >> >>   From: Nat Penton
> >> >>   To: NSRCA Mailing List
> >> >>   Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 5:29 PM
> >> >>   Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] The Pilot
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>   The sponsored pilot received his sponsorship because of his skill
> >> > and
> >> >>dedication. He did not gain competitive advantage due to the
> >> > sponsorship.
> >> >>It is a priviledge and opportunity to be able to fly alongside this
> >> > talent
> >> >>and partake of their skills and knowledge. It is one aspect of the
> >> > hobby
> >> >>for which I am most appreciative.
> >> >>
> >> >>   There have been infrequent critizisms thru the years
> wanting to put
> >> > the
> >> >>sponsored pilot in a separate group. Maybe "sour grapes" should just
> >> > work a
> >> >>little harder.
> >> >>                                                   Nat Penton
> >> >>
> >> >>
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