[NSRCA-discussion] USA team trials

Sun Apr 2 14:52:31 AKDT 2006

Derek,
Creating the unknowns in the afternoon complicates things for the CD because he would then have to find replacements for any of the FAI finalists that have Masters judging assignments. It's all a pretty delicate balance from what I've seen and makes me really appreciate the CD, whoever it happens to be.

Verne Koester
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  From: Derek Koopowitz 
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  Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 12:41 PM
  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] USA team trials

  Mike,

  Having just joined this board I was not aware that there would be a team trials at this years Nats - so these messages over the past few days are news to me.  I was aware, and voted against having the banquet on Tuesday night instead of Wednesday night since I felt that the unknowns for FAI could be selected in the afternoon (FAI will be flying in the morning) instead of Wednesday night.

  I will bring this up with Lamar to see what's going on...

  -Derek

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  From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of mike mueller
  Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 3:40 AM
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  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] USA team trials

   So who makes the decision? Is this made by the board? Just wondering. Mike

  Derek Koopowitz <derekkoopowitz at gmail.com> wrote: 
    Well stated and I agree.

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    [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Grow Pattern
    Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 8:39 PM
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    Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] USA team trials

    Earl,
    In the last printed format for the 2006 Nationals FAI class was
    being run as follows. P-07 on Monday and Tuesday,Semi's on Wednesday flying
    F-07, and then Final's on Thursday with two F-07's and two different
    unknowns. To run a team trials this would have to be changed.

    So I agree with Ron's concern about changing things, (someone get Ron some
    smelling salts quick!), just for FAI team selection needs. I have seen a
    lot of that over the years. A team trials has a marked effect upon judge
    selection and the payment of the extra judges who come in for the FAI
    selection component. It already has spilled over into the social side of the
    Nat's where our banquet is now on a Tuesday night so that FAI unknown
    schedules can be drawn up on the Wednesday night.

    It also puts a lot onto the Nat's event director and invariably the other
    classes experience some neglect. I also wonder if it wise to have the same
    guy running the Nat's and the team trials, especially when the some of the
    top FAI pilots are sponsored directly of indirectly by the same individual.

    I would be much happier if the FAI team selection was not run by the AMA
    Nat's event director. I would also like to keep the Nat's for the majority
    who come for the participation.

    Regards,

    Eric.

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    From: "Earl Haury" 
    To: "NSRCA Mailing List" 
    Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 5:14 PM
    Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] USA team trials

    > Ron
    >
    > There is no proposal to change the Nats format for the TS. There is an
    > additional fee for participation in the program and finals judges are 
    > being
    > recruited beforehand. This excerpt from the program should cover concerns
    > about the event.
    > "Event Qualification. The US Team will be selected by the order of finish 
    > in
    > F3A by U.S. pilots at the 2006 U.S. Nationals. All TSP participants will
    > have to enter the U.S. Nationals in order to be eligible to make the U.S.
    > Team."
    >
    > Earl
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > ----- Original Message ----- 
    > From: 
    > To: "NSRCA Mailing List" 
    > Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 2:10 PM
    > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] USA team trials
    >
    >
    >>
    >>>
    >>> From: "Earl Haury" 
    >>> Date: 2006/03/31 Fri PM 10:08:33 EST
    >>> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" 
    >>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] USA team trials
    >>>
    >>> The original plan was to hold the Team Selections for the '07 WC at next
    >>> year's Nats. However, the '07 WC are to be in April of '07 making it
    >>> necessary to move the TS to this year's Nats. If you, or anyone else, is
    >>> interested in details / entry forms please contact Lisa Johnson
    >>> (lisaj at modelaircraft.org), AMA Competitions Dept.
    >>
    >> My fear, which is justified based on what AMA tried to do before, is that
    >> there will be an attempt by AMA personnel to abbreviate the Nats events 
    >> in
    >> the case of bad weather, so that the Team Selection can be completed. I
    >> believe that the best combination of Nats and F3A Team Selection is to 
    >> say
    >> the the U.S. team is the top three placing U.S. citizens in F3A at the
    >> Nats. Period.
    >>
    >> Ron Van Putte
    >>
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    >
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