[NSRCA-discussion] USA team trials

John Ferrell johnferrell at earthlink.net
Sun Apr 2 05:40:47 AKDT 2006


I think it important to bring the concerns to light. The timing is good, 
everyone is interested and it is a whole lot better than bringing the 
concerns to the event.
If there is a "Deal Breaker" as Dr. Phil says, lets not keep it hidden!

John Ferrell
http://DixieNC.US

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Grow Pattern" <pattern4u at comcast.net>
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Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] USA team trials


> April 1st was yesterday :-)
>
> Seriously though. I know that it will not be popular to raise issues of 
> this
> nature, and I accept that I could be misinterpreting what I know, but I 
> want
> a system that I can defend and believe in.
>
> Regards,
>
> Eric.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Derek Koopowitz" <derekkoopowitz at gmail.com>
> To: "'NSRCA Mailing List'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 1:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] USA team trials
>
>
>> Well stated and I agree.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Grow
>> Pattern
>> Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 8:39 PM
>> To: NSRCA Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] USA team trials
>>
>> Earl,
>>          In the last printed format for the 2006 Nationals FAI class was
>> being run as follows. P-07 on Monday and Tuesday,Semi's on Wednesday
>> flying
>> F-07, and then Final's on Thursday with two F-07's and two different
>> unknowns. To run a team trials this would have to be changed.
>>
>> So I agree with Ron's concern about changing things, (someone get Ron 
>> some
>> smelling salts quick!),  just for FAI team selection needs. I have seen a
>> lot of that over the years. A team trials has a marked effect upon judge
>> selection and the payment of the extra judges who come in for the FAI
>> selection component. It already has spilled over into the social side of
>> the
>> Nat's where our banquet is now on a Tuesday night so that FAI unknown
>> schedules can be drawn up on the Wednesday night.
>>
>> It also puts a lot onto the Nat's event director and invariably the other
>> classes experience some neglect. I also wonder if it wise to have the 
>> same
>> guy running the Nat's and the team trials, especially when the some of 
>> the
>> top FAI pilots are sponsored directly or indirectly by the same
>> individual.
>>
>> I would be much happier if the FAI team selection was not run by the AMA
>> Nat's event director. I would also like to keep the Nat's for the 
>> majority
>> who come for the participation.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Eric.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Earl Haury" <ehaury at houston.rr.com>
>> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 5:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] USA team trials
>>
>>
>>> Ron
>>>
>>> There is no proposal to change the Nats format for the TS. There is an
>>> additional fee for participation in the program and finals judges are
>>> being
>>> recruited beforehand. This excerpt from the program should cover 
>>> concerns
>>> about the event.
>>> "Event Qualification. The US Team will be selected by the order of 
>>> finish
>>> in
>>> F3A by U.S. pilots at the 2006 U.S. Nationals. All TSP participants will
>>> have to enter the U.S. Nationals in order to be eligible to make the 
>>> U.S.
>>> Team."
>>>
>>> Earl
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: <vanputte at cox.net>
>>> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 2:10 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] USA team trials
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: "Earl Haury" <ehaury at houston.rr.com>
>>>>> Date: 2006/03/31 Fri PM 10:08:33 EST
>>>>> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] USA team trials
>>>>>
>>>>> The original plan was to hold the Team Selections for the '07 WC at
>>>>> next
>>>>> year's Nats. However, the '07 WC are to be in April of '07 making it
>>>>> necessary to move the TS to this year's Nats. If you, or anyone else,
>>>>> is
>>>>> interested in details / entry forms please contact Lisa Johnson
>>>>> (lisaj at modelaircraft.org), AMA Competitions Dept.
>>>>
>>>> My fear, which is justified based on what AMA tried to do before, is
>>>> that
>>>> there will be an attempt by AMA personnel to abbreviate the Nats events
>>>> in
>>>> the case of bad weather, so that the Team Selection can be completed. 
>>>> I
>>>> believe that the best combination of Nats and F3A Team Selection is to
>>>> say
>>>> the the U.S. team is the top three placing U.S. citizens in F3A at the
>>>> Nats.  Period.
>>>>
>>>> Ron Van Putte
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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