Mail List Changes

[Koenig, Tom]

Hi Guys,

This topic is interesting. I would have to agree with the lads sofar. I have been a member of this list since it began many years ago ( and its previous incarnations). I can only remember a handful of problems over those years and they were swiftly dealt with.

Like most- I usually lurk in the background, and yes I have a delete button, which I use. I must admit that the list can sometimes get me through an otherwise dreary day here at work. Yes it actually can provide entertainment-even if it is at someone else's expense- I still get a laugh out of Troy's credit card emails for example. Gray( who is very quiet these days???) provides laugh a minute e-mails.

I must also say that I have 'met' many wonderful people on this list whom I would gladly welcome into my home should they ever visit our shores.

So basically what I am trying to say is.....  from down here the list doesn't look 'broken'..why 'fix' it?

I suppose change is always inevitable, I guess I'll remain a member of this list (whatever form it is in) for as long as I am welcome.

Best regards from the land of Oz

Tom


-----Original Message-----
From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
[mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Keith Black
Sent: Tuesday, 13 September 2005 2:13 PM
To: discussion at nsrca.org
Subject: Re: Mail List Changes


I agree with Dave.

The guys that send the off-topic banter aren't doing it by accident, they're
doing it knowing fully well everyone on the list is seeing it. Let's face
it, the majority of the chit chat is from a relatively small number of very
active members. The less talkative members' chit chat doesn't present a
problem.

The active members aren't naive to the way the list works, on the other
hand, if replies only go back to the sender then the less active, and
therefore less aware of how things work, members may never get their posts
out to the list, as Dave has pointed out.

Perhaps a better way to handle this is for the list administrator to
periodically drop a private friendly reminder to those seen sending
off-topic emails. In addition occasional reminders to the list about
off-topic emails and renaming subject lines will help keep everyone inline.
In the past these suggestions have helped quite a bit, until everyone starts
slipping back into their old habits. But then again, that's what an
administrator's for!

Keith Black

PS. I almost messed-up and sent this just to Dave :-)


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Harmon" <K6XYZ at valornet.com>
To: "'ccmlbuck'" <ccmlbuck at comcast.net>; "'Adam Glatt'" <adam.g at sasktel.net>
Cc: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 10:14 PM
Subject: RE: Mail List Changes


> Now that other guys are going to the list with their thoughts....I guess
> I will too.
> Here is a personal email I just sent to Ed and Lamar....enjoy.
> Flame suit on.....please don't take this personally.
>
> ***********
> Lists are all about sharing information....much of it technical.
> This very thing has ruined several amateur radio lists that were a great
> source of the most technical info. Those users were just too lazy to CC
> to the list....I expect it will be the same here.
> It turned into a situation where some guy would ask a question and the
> rest of the gang would never get an answer to it....even if they were
> interested.
> Everything was discussed behind the scenes on private email.
>
> Ed, this is a bad deal.....there were a few posts about off topic stuff
> but so what?
> The guy(s) complaining are going to delete almost everything anyway so
> why not share the info globally?
>
> No flames Ed, but this list and the K-F is much of what holds together
> the NSRCA and without a means of free and clear exchange of information
> we will be in serious trouble.
> If we have to lose a few guys (from the list) who cannot stand to see
> anything that THEY don't want to see.....well then let them unsubscribe.
>
> Oh....Much of the contest stuff could be sent to the District
> list(s)....assuming that all Districts have set them up....and they
> haven't.
>
> Regards
>
> Dave Harmon
> NSRCA 586
> K6XYZ[at]valornet[dot]com
> Broken Arrow, Ok.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]
> On Behalf Of ccmlbuck
> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 9:54 PM
> To: Adam Glatt
> Cc: discussion at nsrca.org
> Subject: Re: Mail List Changes
>
> Ed,  That sounds like it will fix the personal email problem.  I think
> most
> times guys don't even realize they are sending emails to 400 people.
> They
> are used to emailing back and forth with the banter and don't realize
> they
> are on the list.  Or maybe it is just easier to click reply than to look
> up
> the address they need to send direct.  The new way should allow them to
> easily reply to their friends and only put something out for discussion
> that
> really belongs there.  I suppose the risk now is that some won't bother
> to
> cc the group when they really do have something good to say.  I think
> overall this will greatly improve the information density of the emails
> I
> receive.  Thanks for addressing the personal email issue, Craig
>
>           ---- Original Message -----
> From: "Adam Glatt" <adam.g at sasktel.net>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 9:25 PM
> Subject: Re: Mail List Changes
>
>
> > Ed, that's terrible!  Never again will we see top secret confidential
> > emails meant for "your eyes only."  That was the best part of this
> list.
> > ;>
> >
> > Ed Hartley wrote:
> >> Hello All
> >>
> >> Just as a test the mail list has been set where all replies go to the
>
> >> sender only!
> >>
> >> If you wish to have your reply go to the list, you Cc:
> >> discussion at nsrca.org.
> >>
> >> We'll give it a few days and see how this works!
> >>
> >> Ed Hartley
> >> roho2 at rcpattern.com
> >>
> >>
> >> =================================================
> >> If you want your email to go to the list, you must Cc: the list!
> >>
> >> To access the email archives for this list, go to
> >> http://lists.f3a.us/pipermail/nsrca-discussion/
> >> To be removed from this list, go to
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> >> and follow the instructions.
> >>
> >> List members email returned for mailbox full will be removed from the
>
> >> list.
> >>
> > =================================================
> > If you want your email to go to the list, you must Cc: the list!
> >
> > To access the email archives for this list, go to
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> >
> >
>
>
> =================================================
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>
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>
>
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>
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