Growing pattern

Jim Ivey jivey61 at bellsouth.net
Sat Nov 19 06:54:42 AKST 2005


 Bill
Agreed,in the meantime use what is available.

Jim Ivey
> 
> From: "Bill Glaze" <billglaze at triad.rr.com>
> Date: 2005/11/19 Sat AM 10:16:49 EST
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Subject: Re: Re: Growing pattern
> 
> Jim:
> A little off subject I know, inasmuch as I'm talking about passive as 
> opposed to active but, here goes:
> The frustrating thing to me is that good, modern, progressive filming 
> techniques are available. They are practiced by those folks who are computer 
> literate, by using PowerPoint as the platform.  It is then shown via 
> individual computers or the PP projector.  (Pricey, I understand.)  But, the 
> technology and know-how is available; I've seen it at IMAC judging sessions 
> and on Bob Pastorello's web site.  Our film, while state of the art when 
> made, is badly outdated now.  Has anybody else been to an IMAC judging 
> school, and seen the PP stuff?  I believe that Roy Barrow had a hand in it; 
> (he's a computer guru, has his own ISP company, etc.)  But, Bob Pastorello 
> who is an accomplished computer person, has shown that it's doable.
> 
> Bill Glaze
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim Ivey" <jivey61 at bellsouth.net>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 11:13 PM
> Subject: Re: Re: Growing pattern
> 
> 
> > Lance
> > The Aerofly Pro Has the pic in pic and I just finished practicing the 
> > 2/4pt rolls inv to inv (2007) pattern.
> > You can use the corners of the pic in pic for the 45 Degree lines,uprights 
> > for vert and horizontal lines for level flight.This works for me,but the 
> > plane relative position to ground is not there. Bob Pastorello did some 
> > work on this last year with the Aerofly Pro. At any rate it keeps the 
> > fingers limber and the eyes working.
> >
> > Jim Ivey
> >
> >>
> >> From: "Lance Van Nostrand" <patterndude at comcast.net>
> >> Date: 2005/11/18 Fri PM 10:37:16 EST
> >> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> >> Subject: Re: Growing pattern
> >>
> >> On a bit more serious note, there was a very useful discussion thread 
> >> here about using a flight sim to demonstrate manuvers and capturing the 
> >> video.  Seemed several people figured it out.  I know filming real planes 
> >> is really tough if you want a judge training aid or a snazzy promotion. 
> >> I've had success with two cameras, one zoomed in and one out to provide a 
> >> picture in picture of the real plane.  Works best on centered manuvers to 
> >> show geometry.
> >> --lance
> >>
> >>   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>   From: Chuck Hochhalter
> >>   To: discussion at nsrca.org
> >>   Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 9:06 AM
> >>   Subject: RE: Growing pattern
> >>
> >>
> >>   Gray, your timing to contribute is always right on, now if you could 
> >> just build that into your sequence.. wow J
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>   I would assist any vp in any way possible.  I have a lot to learn about 
> >> pattern before attempting to hold this office.  And how could I fill 
> >> Lances shoes, he has done a superb job!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>   And the plane weighs 10 lbs 26 oz I said.. (grin)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>   Up Chuck
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>   -----Original Message-----
> >>   From: discussion-request at nsrca.org 
> >> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Gray E Fowler
> >>   Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 9:06 AM
> >>   To: discussion at nsrca.org
> >>   Subject: Fw: Growing pattern
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >>   Lance.......I think we have found our next District 6 VP.......His 
> >> campaign slogan can be ......Up Chuck! Up Chuck......wait a minute...he's 
> >> still Intermediate with a heavy plane right? never mind
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>   Gray Fowler
> >>   Principal Chemical Engineer
> >>   Composites Engineering
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>         Chuck Hochhalter <chochhalter at direcway.com>
> >>         Sent by: discussion-request at nsrca.org
> >>
> >>         11/18/2005 07:26 AM
> >>
> >>               Please respond to
> >>               discussion at nsrca.org
> >>
> >>
> >>        To
> >>              discussion at nsrca.org
> >>
> >>               cc
> >>
> >>
> >>               Subject
> >>              RE: Growing pattern
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> >>
> >>   Ed, you are right on.  I think there are tons of small seemingly
> >>   insignificant times when we could expose people to pattern and the joy
> >>   in learning the skills needed to fly it.  Notice I did not say compete.
> >>   There are those out there and I fully understand this who don't want
> >>   their hobby to be a means of competition so I try to get them to just
> >>   learn to fly the maneuvers to gain the feel for precision in their
> >>   flying.
> >>
> >>   I too monitor RCU and in basic help questions I try to respond but I am
> >>   fairly new to pattern, 3rd year but still learning equipment and yes, I
> >>   am developing some strong opinions about setups.  Who would have 
> >> thought
> >>   that?
> >>
> >>   As for what I can do, I wouldn't mind being the accumulator of info.
> >>   Someone sent me an email and the question was asked... is this for
> >>   technical help or to recruit.  I would like to see the video as a
> >>   recruiting tool.
> >>
> >>   How many hobby shops do you see with vcrs and dvd players now?
> >>
> >>   I think we should give this a try.  If you have any inflight video that
> >>   would be great. We could even post on the NSRCA website downloadable
> >>   planes for G2 sim and the Aerofly Pro sim??  Just a thought.
> >>
> >>   Thanks for any input.
> >>
> >>   Chuck Hochhalter
> >>
> >>
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> >>
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