[SPAM] Re: Glow Engine Vs. Electric Engine for 2 m' pattern plane

[Koenig, Tom]

Ed and others,
It costs me approx $35 Australian  per (US) gallon to  have the privilege mixing my own fuel. This is 30% Nitro and LV Coolpower oil. Remember, this is to mix myself.
It gets better. The Pre-mix Heli 30% Coolpower retails for around $70 Australian per gallon. My two stroker friends mix the 15% and costs fall to about $25 AUS per US gallon.
Flying FAI..I have poured thousands into my Dingo........and I can tell you it is cheaper to run the family cars per fortnight than it is for me to practice during the week and then 'social' fly on weekends.
The current price of "Gasoline" as you guys call it( we call it Petrol'), is at $1.10 per litre...even at the current world crude oil price...the DZ looks a little silly. Not to mention the $300 I have just spent on re-building it ( just normal wear and tear).

I don't want to come across as whinging about the cost of this sport-I should get out otherwise-but it is a harsh reality of this country.

I think you will find that outside the US electric will offer a real alternative. I have no choice BUT to seriously consider it.

best regards

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Ed Alt
Sent: Monday, 30 May 2005 2:44 PM
To: discussion at nsrca.org
Subject: [SPAM] Re: Glow Engine Vs. Electric Engine for 2 m' pattern plane


Wow, that must be expensive fuel!  So at 100 flights a pack, that's 200 flights or $5 a flight for "fuel" if a pair of batteries cost $1000.  I get about 10 flights, twice through the pattern per gallon of glow fuel.  Is 15% fuel $50 or more per gallon outside of the US?  If so, I had no idea it was that expensive.  I would be looking at electric now as well if I had that kind of cost to contend with.

Ed

----- Original Message -----
From: Koenig, Tom <mailto:Tom.Koenig at actewagl.com.au> 
To: discussion at nsrca.org
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 6:54 PM
Subject: Glow Engine Vs. Electric Engine for 2 m' pattern plane

Ed and others

I'm not so sure it is such a silly comparison for people outside of the US, where costs can be considerable in the fuel department. Our figures indicate that at we would be at 'break even' point if we get 100 flights a pack. Anything more and its gravy. We are not including things like I/C engine rebuilds etc either. We simply treated the packs as 'fuel' in our estimations. Like anything, maintenance and correct installation is an issue/learning curve...and done properly I can see Electric making economic rationale.

Now if anyone can just give us more info on how it actually 'feels' to fly the FAI pattern?

Anyone...please????

best regards

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Ed Alt
Sent: Monday, 30 May 2005 8:39 AM
To: discussion at nsrca.org
Subject: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Glow Engine Vs. Electric Engine for 2 m' pattern plane


Yes and you need to figure out the jump in your electric bill.  Getting silly isn't it?  It's a 2:1 comparison, assuming the batteries last, which apparently, they don't.

Ed

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From: Nat Penton <mailto:natpenton at centurytel.net> 

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