Take Off & Landing "Reality of a Contest"

Jim Ivey jivey61 at bellsouth.net
Sun May 22 18:48:23 AKDT 2005


 Jerry
 No you didn't miss anything  yet. Stay tuned, more changes(corrections) are coming.

Jim Ivey
> 
> From: "Gerald Gallagher" <ggall at bellsouth.net>
> Date: 2005/05/22 Sun PM 09:40:21 EDT
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Subject: RE: Take Off & Landing "Reality of a Contest"
> 
> I am with you Jim. It seams simple, am I missing something?
> 
> Jerry Gallagher
> 
> 
> 
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> Subject: Re: Take Off & Landing "Reality of a Contest"
> 
> 
> Larry
>  I don't see what is wrong or needs to be changed from the old way of
> ---- calling take-off complete at the altitude of 6 ft or 2 meters. Or
> calling landing beginning at  6ft or 2 meters. Why confuse everybody
> with something to do between takeoff complete and entry to the box and
> the exit box call and landing. It is the FAI procedure that requires the
> takeoff sequence.. We don't need a sequence.It wastes time and gives the
> judges more work,when it has no function. 
> It is simple, takeoff complete at 2 meters or 6ft and enter the box.
> Exit box and landing beginning at 2 meters or 6ft. I don't understand
> how this got so confusing when it was so simple.
> 
> Jim Ivey
> > 
> > From: "Larry Diamond" <lld613 at psci.net>
> > Date: 2005/05/22 Sun PM 05:57:06 EDT
> > To: "NSRCA" <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > Subject: Take Off & Landing "Reality of a Contest"
> > 
> > I know there has been much discussion on this, but after CDing a 
> > contest this weekend, I believe there needs to be a clear 
> > understanding of what is expected in two areas.
> > 
> > 1)	When to call "Take-Off complete / Landing commencing". When does
> it
> > need to be called? After exiting the Box for the last maneuver for 
> > Landing. Prior to entering the box for the trim pass on Take-Off. This
> 
> > is what makes sense to me from CDing a contest.
> > 
> > 2)	Is a Dead-Stick Landing a "Zero Landing"? At the beginning of
> our
> > contest I stated that we would not zero TO / L for calling. So we 
> > scored all landings. However, if a dead-stick prevents completing the 
> > prescribed maneuver, then a zero is really the most likely result at 
> > the NATS. I don't believe this was intended.
> > 
> > The Judging committee should really jump on this and get clarification
> 
> > out as quickly as possible for the "Official Judge Ruling" People are 
> > trying to practice this and although seemingly easy on paper, the 
> > execution of calling and judging properly does get a bit 
> > confusing...We need to make sure everyone is practicing this correctly
> 
> > before the NATS or it will be a potential area of concern for the 
> > CD's...
> > 
> > Larry Diamond
> > NSRCA 3083
> > 
> > 
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