Take Off & Landing "Reality of a Contest"

[Jim Ivey]

Jason
Did that Saturday and didn't have to call takeoff or landing. I do call in box to wake up my caller.

Jim Ivey
> 
> From: "Jason" <jasonshulman at cox.net>
> Date: 2005/05/22 Sun PM 07:03:29 EDT
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Subject: RE: Take Off & Landing "Reality of a Contest"
> 
> Well, what else is there to do....go out and practice... <G>
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Arch Stafford
> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 4:03 PM
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Subject: RE: Take Off & Landing "Reality of a Contest"
> 
> 
> Have to agree with Jim here.  This would be the VERY simple thing to do.
> Just state this at the beginning of a contest and be done with it.  Amazing
> how such a simple question has been drug out for 10 days with no real
> answer.
> 
> Arch
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org] On
> Behalf Of Jim Ivey
> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 6:23 PM
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Subject: Re: Take Off & Landing "Reality of a Contest"
> 
> Larry
>  I don't see what is wrong or needs to be changed from the old way of ----
> calling take-off complete at the altitude of 6 ft or 2 meters. Or calling
> landing beginning at  6ft or 2 meters. Why confuse everybody with something
> to do between takeoff complete and entry to the box and the exit box call
> and landing. It is the FAI procedure that requires the takeoff sequence.. We
> don't need a sequence.It wastes time and gives the judges more work,when it
> has no function.
> It is simple, takeoff complete at 2 meters or 6ft and enter the box.  Exit
> box and landing beginning at 2 meters or 6ft.
> I don't understand how this got so confusing when it was so simple.
> 
> Jim Ivey
> >
> > From: "Larry Diamond" <lld613 at psci.net>
> > Date: 2005/05/22 Sun PM 05:57:06 EDT
> > To: "NSRCA" <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > Subject: Take Off & Landing "Reality of a Contest"
> >
> > I know there has been much discussion on this, but after CDing a contest
> > this weekend, I believe there needs to be a clear understanding of what is
> > expected in two areas.
> >
> > 1)	When to call "Take-Off complete / Landing commencing". When does it
> > need to be called? After exiting the Box for the last maneuver for
> Landing.
> > Prior to entering the box for the trim pass on Take-Off. This is what
> makes
> > sense to me from CDing a contest.
> >
> > 2)	Is a Dead-Stick Landing a "Zero Landing"? At the beginning of our
> > contest I stated that we would not zero TO / L for calling. So we scored
> all
> > landings. However, if a dead-stick prevents completing the prescribed
> > maneuver, then a zero is really the most likely result at the NATS. I
> don't
> > believe this was intended.
> >
> > The Judging committee should really jump on this and get clarification out
> > as quickly as possible for the "Official Judge Ruling" People are trying
> to
> > practice this and although seemingly easy on paper, the execution of
> calling
> > and judging properly does get a bit confusing...We need to make sure
> > everyone is practicing this correctly before the NATS or it will be a
> > potential area of concern for the CD's...
> >
> > Larry Diamond
> > NSRCA 3083
> >
> >
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