calling complete for new takeoff

Grow Pattern pattern4u at comcast.net
Mon May 16 05:39:40 AKDT 2005


Nobody is talking about special power. The NSRCA is however an AMA appointed SIG and does take a lot of time and trouble to both find out what the membership wants and then processes the language of the change. With many eyes on the work done most of the "holes" get sorted out before it goes to print. We certainly look at the effect upon all of the classes.

Eric.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gordon Anderson 
  To: discussion at nsrca.org 
  Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 1:05 AM
  Subject: RE: calling complete for new takeoff


  This is a little confusing. All rule change proposals are "private proposals" according to my rule book the procedure is:

  "At this time, the procedure for changing a rule is as
  follows:
  A formal proposal on a form obtained from AMA
  Headquarters and signed by three (3) AMA members
  (one of whom must be a Contest Director) is submitted
  before the September 1 deadline as shown in the
  schedule."

  Individuals submit rule change proposals not the NSRCA. The NSRCA board has no special power in this process, at least not in the version of the rule book I'm looking at.

  --Gordon



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  From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Grow Pattern
  Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 8:35 PM
  To: discussion at nsrca.org
  Subject: Re: calling complete for new takeoff


  The NSRCA judging committee was formed to explain and clarify any confusing rules text and rules explanations. It consults with the AMA contest board when it need a rules interpretation or where an area is not covered by the written rules.

  Don Ramsey accumulates the rules "problems"  and submits them as questions to the NSRCA survey and updates the training scripts etc.

  The take-off and landing rules-change was submitted by the AMA Contest Committee Chairperson, John Fuqua and co-signed by Tony Stillman and Ron Van-putte. This was not an NSRCA proposal. It was, in fact, the opposite to the NSRCA majority vote to keep the landings and take-off's. (We often refer to this type of proposal as a private proposal.) 

  The "private proposal" was not processed by the NSRCA judging committee nor the NSRCA board. The proposal did reach the AMA rules book with the English that we are wrestling with today. 

  Even though it should have been looked at and tailored for each AMA class the new system is basically a facsimile of the FAI system. Knowing this we should be able to implement it effectively during the season. We will ask the question again in the 2005-7 survey. Then subject to what you all think we will propose a change or not, as the case may be!

  Regards,

  Eric.

  P.S. I personally think that our skill in landing and take-off is one worth preserving!



  ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: RUDDERCABL at aol.com 
    To: discussion at nsrca.org 
    Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 10:15 PM
    Subject: Re: calling complete for new takeoff


    In a message dated 5/15/2005 2:31:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, derekkoopowitz at earthlink.net writes:
      What do you mean by that comment, George?

    As I see it, the meaning was "VERY CLEAR" !  I understood it fully. 

    Robert Gainey
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