Judging

[Cameron Smith]

Another thing I would like to see is once a year at a Judging seminar,
is have a demo flight flown & we all judge this flight. Then in addition
to the class we review our scores with everyone. I'm sure we all could
pick up a thing or two in this environment.
Have a FAI guy fly advanced & film IF possible. That way nobody gets an
advantage or there feelings bruised.
 
 I also wish there was a way at the district levels we could find a way
to rank our judging. Have a few rounds flown with a 3 or more panel of
judges & get ranking numbers.
  Is this possible?
                                                                      
 
-----Original Message-----
From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]
On Behalf Of Lance Van Nostrand
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 11:40 PM
To: discussion at nsrca.org
Subject: Re: Judging
 
Good question and I'm trying to think of an answer.  The problem is, we
don't really know how manuvers are being judged as a general rule.  If
one makes a point to watch a specific flight, and then go peek at their
tear sheet, you can find out.  Or maybe you might notice that a pilot
you think you beat actually beats you could lead you to wonder if those
mistakes you saw were also observed by the judge.  but as a general rule
this is a hard question. 
   I've said it before, but I think not having a way to see the judges
scores for a flight in near real time keeps pattern confusing for
interested spectators and difficult for us to improve our judging.  If
this were available, I'm sure most pilots would be intrigued enough to
watch a flight and compare the judges score to their own score to see
how it compares.  Spectators would feel they could follow along and have
a feel for how the contest is going and when a particularly good flight
was performed.  Pilots might also have particular interest in their
buddy's performance, or might compare their assessments to those of a
respected judge.  It might spark other conversations over a beer
regarding perceptions, none of which I can see as damaging.
  A thread some time ago described various ways to do this.  The easiest
was to have "scribes" that held up their hands with a manuver score.
Back of the hand was a whole number, palms facing was a half point.
  I bet if we tried this at contests over the next few weeks you'd be
more likely to get feedback on your question.
--Lance
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Don Ramsey <mailto:don.ramsey at cox.net>  
To: discussion at nsrca.org 
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 9:48 PM
Subject: Judging
 
Are there any areas that seem to be miss judged at the contest you
attend?  If you think so, please send me an email at don.ramsey at cox.net
so I can discuss them in the K-Factor.
 
Don Ramsey
NSRCA Judging Committee Chairman
AMA 6096  NSRCA 1506
email:    don.ramsey at cox.net
website: http://members.cox.net/don.ramsey
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