Lawsuit Update
Gray E Fowler
gfowler at raytheon.com
Mon Mar 21 08:18:24 AKST 2005
I met with other club officials Saturday morning and here is what we are
doing.
There was much discussion on whether to get a lawyer or not. Some fear
that in Small claims in front of a JP, which by the way ignores all normal
court rules, a lawyer would piss off the JP. This lady does not have a
lawyer because she cannot really afford one. We are calling all current
club members and asking if they have had any interaction with this lady
1. Are you aware of anyone crashing on or near her property.
2. Did she come over to our property and fall and break her arm
We are filing a response today denying all claims of trespassing and the
breaking of her arm. Included in our response will be the prior history
with this lady which includes
1. A face to face meeting with the County Managers who reveiwed our club
documents.
2. A live noise demo that resulted in the County stating in writing that a
noise problem does not exist and that they recognize that the flying
boundaries are for reference only, and that occasional overflys do happen
by accident and it is not a problem.
3. Repeated Sherrif visits from her complaints, where as no action is ever
taken.
4. Results from County Commisioners court in front of a judge, whereas her
claims were dismissed.
The JP will then make a decision on whether or not to hear this case. Our
club members really think our response will end this, I do not.
I feel that our club members, like 90% of the rest of the world are
fearful of lawyers. Most view lawyers as an expensive solution that they
have no control of. When you hire a lawyer, and go to court, you are in a
very "specialty" situation that frankly the average citizen does not
comprehend, nor can properly react to. I think we (my club)are absolute
fools for not getting a lawyer. The Club Pres has said if the JP accepts
this case we will reconsider obtaining a lawyer. My polling of club
members indicates that people who are against a lawyer have never retianed
a lawyer, but they sure hate them. A few that are for it have had a lawyer
and see the benefits. Of couse the AMA told us to deny all claims and not
to get a lawyer. They willn help us if this got out of hand, but not right
now.
I find it absurd to believe that a JP would get pissed off that we brought
a lawyer. Hey! We are talking about $5000! I would think that the JP would
think we are idiots for NOT having a lawyer. I see this as a method for
ending this lady's claims now and forever. I think we should go after her
in writing for OUR court costs which include legal fees. I never expect
restitution but I do want her to know that we take this serious and will
fight her to the bitter end. He has has most cash wins, and in this case
we have much more cash. We can spend $1000 in lawyer fees now and be done
with it.
I would bet that MOST of you out there who have been to court with a
lawyer are with me and those of you who have never have been to court are
against my thoughts. There is a wild card, which is JP court. Anything
goes, and for that reason I realize I could be wrong.
So we are posting a denial of all claims today.
On trespassing...one of of members is a Plano Cop. Here is the Police and
court take on Trespassing. Posted or not posted means nothing. You can
step on anyones property at any time. If the owner asks you to leave, you
must leave and be given the chance to leave. To make it legal, and hold up
in court, a police office must witness this exchange. Now I am sure that
if she tells a person to get off in January and a cop (or other witness)
is there and you show up again in Feb and once again witnessed, then you
are trespassing. Flying over her trailer is not trespassing.
Gray Fowler
Principal Chemical Engineer
Composites Engineering
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