[SPAM] Re: growing pattern

Tue Mar 8 05:31:11 AKST 2005

40-45?...no kidding? Where are you at?

--- Richard Strickland <richard.s at allied-callaway.com>
wrote:

> Man, it's hard to practice when there are 40-45 guys
> wanting to fly! 
> 
> Richard
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Grow Pattern 
>   To: discussion at nsrca.org 
>   Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 10:45 PM
>   Subject: Re: growing pattern
> 
> 
>   I believe that a big reason why pattern has become
> invisible is where we fly and practice. This was
> gradually and subtlety caused by the rigors of the
> turnaround schedules!
> 
>   It is very difficult to fly at a club with regular
> sport flyers, and often the accompanying flight
> direction rules, when more than one plane is in the
> air.
> 
>   Turnaround makes us fly consecutive maneuvers that
> don't allow us to bale out if we are heading into
> traffic. So, we tend to fly when the folks, who used
> to watch us, are not there, or at a more isolated
> field. Then we become basically invisible and fail
> to inspire as we did in the past.
> 
>   Regards,
> 
>   Eric.
> 
> 
>     ----- Original Message ----- 
>     From: BUDDYonRC at aol.com 
>     To: discussion at nsrca.org 
>     Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 7:25 PM
>     Subject: Re: growing pattern
> 
> 
>     In a message dated 3/7/2005 5:33:50 PM Central
> Standard Time, jpavlick at idseng.com writes:
>       Bob,
>       Yeah, I agree. We need to improve our
> "exposure" if you will. Last Summer,
>       I was looking for pattern contests. Nobody in
> my area knew where any were or
>       even if people still flew pattern! I somehow
> missed the NSRCA booth at the
>       WRAM show last February too. One of my club
> members happened to find a
>       K-Factor somewhere and gave it to me. Here I
> am. Flew Sportsman last year
>       with a 40 size Kaos, now I've got a Focus for
> Intermediate.
>       As far as magazine coverage goes -you're
> pretty much right about that too.
>       3D, parkflyers and big scale aerobatic stuff
> are in the spotlight now. Fear
>       not. Dean has a pattern column in Flying
> Models. I'm working with Fly RC
>       magazine. I'm sure there are a few other guys
> out there too. Don't forget
>       about Eric in M.A. I'm reviewing some stuff
> now that would be great for an
>       intro to pattern - 90 size ARFs (and some
> smaller ones too) that can fly
>       Sportsman and Intermediate. I think Dean has
> done a few reviews along these
>       lines too. If you want to see more pattern
> planes in the magazines, take the
>       time to write to the editors. We get review
> airplanes based on what the
>       readers want - not necessarily what we want.
> If there are lots of requests
>       for more pattern planes, motors, etc. it will
> make the editors take notice.
>       They always need stuff to fill up the magazine
> so a few pictures of your
>       plane and a short note might get published in
> the "readers" section.
>       I think you'll see things improving soon. In
> the meantime, try to get some
>       guys in your club interested in pattern if you
> can. One way to get their
>       attention is to point out how precision
> aerobatics skills can be helpful for
>       3D flying. This has worked for me on at least
> two occasions. Ask them: "Can
>       you use the rudder effectively in a hover,
> when you're looking at the bottom
>       of the plane?" If the answer is "No" (it
> usually is), show them what we're
>       all about. a lot of guys are afraid of the
> rudder. Show them how to use it
>       and tell them how you learned these skills,
> etc. Either that, or help them
>       trim one of their planes to fly correctly (OK,
> just do your best - sometimes
>       it's almost impossible). They'll come around.
> 
>       John Pavlick
>       http://www.idseng.com
> 
> 
>       >
>       > -----Original Message-----
>       > From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
>       > [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On
> Behalf Of Robert Mairs
>       > Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 1:20 PM
>       > To: discussion at nsrca.org
>       > Subject: Re: Making Pattern Harder - was
> Pattern Box Rules (discussion)
>       >
>       >
>       > I've been monitoring the list for a couple
> years now, haven't
>       > said a whole
>       > lot, but a common theme I seem to see a lot,
> is talking about the
>       > past.  If
>       > you want pattern to grow, there's only one
> way your gonna do it
>       > and that's
>       > to start promoting it.  You don't see
> anything about it anywhere.  Hardly
>       > any plane reviews in major magazines, no ads
> in magazines, about the only
>       > thing going is an occasional column in ama. 
> If your not specifically
>       > looking for it, pattern is pretty much
> invisible in my opinion.
>       > A banner ad
>       > on rcu, rcgroups drawing people to the
> website could be a
>       > possibility.  If
>       > you don't start attempting to draw in new
> people, diminished size is
>       > inevitable.  Just look at the turnover in
> your local clubs.
>       > Sequences, wt
>       > limits, turnaround, box sizes, etc, etc,
> isn't gonna get pattern anywhere.
>       >
>       > Make it easy for somebody new, expand the
> beginners section on
>       > the website.
>       > Guys are building lower priced arfs, have
> them write up some
>       > reviews, show
>       > them they don't have to have a $3500 2m,
> custom painted, tricked
>       > out bird.
>       > Update and expand district sites makeing it
> easy to find a
>       > contest to come
>       > out to and watch with directions, starting
> times, saying visitors
>       > welcome.
>       > The only thing I think will turn around
> pattern is promotion
>       > outside of its
>       > primary membership, which doesn't really
> seem to take place.
>       > rm
>       >
> 
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>     I think These are good points we need take a
> hard look and see how we can each make a move in
> this direction I agree pattern is STEALTH now
>     Buddy
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