Pattern Box Rules (discussion)

[John Ferrell]

IMAC Now has a lot more members than we and with equipment costs exceeding 
ours.

I am inclined to think they are doing at least something right.

John Ferrell
http://DixieNC.US

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Cronkhite" <seefo at san.rr.com>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 5:32 AM
Subject: RE: Pattern Box Rules (discussion)


> If you start making things easier, you won't attract new pilots. All 
> you'll
> really do is make existing pilots get sloppy. IMAC has adopted new
> positioning rules that are 'supposed' to make the noise footprint smaller
> when in reality all they've done is breed a new group of pilots who can't
> put the airplane where they want and have no reason to do so.
>
> My best analogy is the pilot who spends his entire flying time at a field
> with a HUGE runway, who then cannot land on a small one because he's never
> had to do it.
>
> Leave pattern alone. The only thing I'd do is ease up the schedules a bit
> from the current trend of thumb gynastics. I've always believed a pattern
> should be easy to fly, but difficult to fly well. The winning flight
> shouldn't just be the person who managed to get through it.
>
> -Doug
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
>> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org] On Behalf Of David Lockhart
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 7:39 PM
>> To: discussion at nsrca.org
>> Subject: Re: Pattern Box Rules (discussion)
>>
>> Arch,
>>
>> I think you are right on target.
>>
>> Competition is supposed to be tough and challenging, and
>> unlike too much of the PC rhetoric in schools today, there is
>> only ONE winner, and everyone else is a loser (even if they
>> played the game "nice").
>>
>> Sometimes I wonder if pattern would attract more people if -
>> - downgrades were 1 point per 30 degrees,
>> - no downgrades for wind drift,
>> - no box specified,
>> - final score includes only your single best flight,
>> - 3 "mulligans" allowed per flight,
>>
>> And, the awards at every contest included awards for best
>> Peewee, Junior, Senior, Open, Sr. Open, and Super Senior.
>>
>> Then 90% of the scores would be 9 or better, and 90% of the
>> entrants would go home with 1st place trophies.
>>
>> My apologies to anyone put off by this slightly off topic post.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Archie Stafford" <rcpattern at comcast.net>
>> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 10:08 PM
>> Subject: RE: Pattern Box Rules (discussion)
>>
>>
>> > What is the desire to make pattern easier.  Seems like
>> every proposal
>> > is
>> to
>> > make the planes easier to build to meet the rules, or changing the
>> patterns
>> > because they are hard.  I got into pattern because of the
>> challenge.
>> > I would much rather fly a very difficult schedule and have to go
>> > practice often than to fly an easy schedule that everyone
>> can do well.
>> > The
>> challenge
>> > should never be who you are flying against, but to be able to go
>> > practice
>> on
>> > your own and see the results.  Contests are great, but I
>> love pattern
>> > because I know that everytime I go fly that I am NOT going
>> to fly the
>> > perfect flight.  The challenge is to go out and put in that much
>> > better flight than I did before.
>> >
>> > We as a SIG are never going to attract everyone at the field.  It
>> > takes a certain personality type to be interested in
>> pattern.  I don't
>> > think the solution is to water down pattern to where
>> everyone wants to
>> > try it, but
>> at
>> > the cost of eliminating a lot of the challenges.  Once
>> again I think
>> > we
>> need
>> > to put the emphasis on getting people to try it. Yes, we
>> will lose a
>> > great number of those people to lack of time, interest, money or
>> > whatever, but
>> if
>> > each district just picks up 5 or 6 people a year, it will
>> keep pattern
>> > healthy.  I have no problem being lenient with rules in
>> Sportsman, but
>> > as
>> I
>> > think Chris Moon said, we don't need to sacrifice the other classes.
>> There
>> > are good cheaper alternatives with airframes (Aresti,
>> Focus, or even
>> > older designs that others are selling), motors, and radios.
>> >
>> > I think we need to concentrate on getting more people to
>> try it, all
>> > the while knowing that we are not going to keep everyone.
>> >
>> > Just my two cents...
>> >
>> > Arch
>> >
>> >
>> >
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