Pattern Box Rules (discussion)

[steven maxwell]

 Troy is working on schedules and to change something that would effect
what he is doing could really put it to him on how he does things, I leave
the box alone let Troy do what he was ask to do, don't throw a wrench in
his hard work. Lets not get to radical at one time.
 Steve Maxwell


> [Original Message]
> From: David Lockhart <DaveL322 at comcast.net>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Date: 3/2/2005 10:18:44 PM
> Subject: Re: Pattern Box Rules (discussion)
>
> Agree, leave the box alone.
>
> Flying closer to the flightline increases parallax and makes the vertical
> maneuver much uglier to judge.
>
> If the Sportsman schedule is too hard to fly in the box, then I would
> suggest the Sportsman schedule is too difficult - I think the emphasis in
> Sportsman should be on learning to fly wings level, straight lines,
> positioning in the box, and using the box.
>
> Dave
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ed Alt" <ed_alt at hotmail.com>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 9:41 PM
> Subject: Re: Pattern Box Rules (discussion)
>
>
> > Absolutely with you on this Joe!
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Joe Lachowski" <jlachow at hotmail.com>
> > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 5:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: Pattern Box Rules (discussion)
> >
> >
> > > The 75 degree box is just as bad as no box at all. I flew the 75
degree
> > > box in a couple of IMAC contests when they used it and thought that
that
> > > big of a box was a joke and presented less of a challenge. Leave the
box
> > > alone. Let's bury this obsurd idea right now!!
> > >
> > >>From: vicenterc at comcast.net
> > >>Reply-To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > >>To: discussion at nsrca.org, discussion at nsrca.org
> > >>CC: BUDDYonRC at aol.com
> > >>Subject: Re: Pattern Box Rules (discussion)
> > >>Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 22:10:27 +0000
> > >>
> > >>IMAC changed to 90 degree box this year.
> > >>
> > >>Vince
> > >>
> > >>-------------- Original message --------------
> > >>
> > >>As a member of the rules change committee I am trying to determine if
> > >>there is interest in pursuing this matter and welcome a discussion and
> > >>suggestions regarding this issue
> > >>I have outlined some of the issues and suggestions pertaining to this
> > >>below and welcome your opinions.
> > >>
> > >>The pattern box was added to the AMA rules when the turnaround method
of
> > >>Presentation and scoring was initiated. It defines the limited scoring
> > >>area where all maneuvers must be performed.
> > >>The purpose of the box is to provide a uniform but somewhat flexible
> area
> > >>of presentation that allows the pilot the opportunity to tailor his
> > >>presentation to the requirements of the pattern being flown, and allow
> > >>judges to score his presentation on an equitable basis when compared
to
> > >>the presentations of other pilots flying the sequence.
> > >>The rules provide for specific score penalties for performing any
> maneuver
> > >>either out of the box or partially out of the box, making it all
> important
> > >>that all box violations are downgraded the same by all judges to
provide
> > >>the correct score earned.
> > >>Over the years the failure of judges to provide a uniform application
of
> > >>box violations has resulted in an unfair advantage to some pilots and
a
> > >>disadvantage to others.
> > >>In many cases box line poles are not or cannot be provided to give the
> > >>pilot or judge the visual reference necessary which becomes the
primary
> > >>reason among others that this condition continues to exist.
> > >>In addition to the above the present box configuration increases the
> > >>possibility of a midair collision when two flight lines are used
because
> > >>many pilots strive to utilize the same optimum distance out in their
> > >>presentation.
> > >>By reconfiguring the box more area will be available for those who
wish
> to
> > >>fly in closer with out fear of box violation downgrades, this will
also
> > >>allow those who experience vision difficulties at greater distances
the
> > >>possibly to be more competitive
> > >>  In order to provide a method that will more nearly insure equity to
> all
> > >> participants and simplify the task of judges, while possibly reducing
> the
> > >> occurrences of midair collision, and also encourage those with
limited
> > >> eyesight at the greater distances to participate, It has been
suggested
> > >> that a rules change be requested to modify the pattern box layout and
> > >> redefine the box boundary infringement penalty.
> > >>
> > >>One suggestion was to revise the box size by changing the box line
from
> > >>Sixty (60) degrees to Seventy-five (75) degrees. And adopt a uniform
> > >>system of accessing penalties similar to the FAI rule or to the method
> > >>used in IMAC
> > >>
> > >>Another suggestion which may offer solutions to more of the inherent
> > >>problems experienced with the present box layout and scoring methods
> would
> > >>be to adopt
> > >>A box layout and penalty system as described in the AMA Scale
Aerobatics
> > >>Rules Item 4.1 with modifications to suit pattern.
> > >>
> > >>Buddy Brammer
> > >>
> > >
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