Elan trouble

[Keith Black]

Gene, you mean you didn't know? No wonder you're not winning every Master's
event you enter!

Time to convert all of your planes. ;-)

<snicker, snicker>
Keith Black

PS. I think I know what his answer will be, but I'll let him give it
himself.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gene Maurice" <gene.maurice at comcast.net>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 10:54 PM
Subject: RE: Elan trouble


> Lance,
>
> Is there something magic in Master's that prohibits the use of pull-pull
on
> the elavator?
>
> Gene Maurice
> gene.maurice at comcast.net
> Plano, Texas
> AMA 3408   NSRCA 877
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]
On
> Behalf Of Lance Van Nostrand
> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 10:31 PM
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Subject: Re: Elan trouble
>
> Up through Advanced there's no reason not to use pull pull on elevator.
Its
> very easy to install and removing the MK bellcrank and stuff (all very
> expensive) will save you 1 oz in the tail and reduce the lead need in the
> nose.  Use 30lb coated fishing leader and you can drop 1 oz in one evening
> for 1/10 the cost of all that hardware.
> --Lance
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jerry Wilson" <JWilsonJr at houston.rr.com>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 8:35 PM
> Subject: RE: Elan trouble
>
>
> > Jim,
> >
> > I don't know why it is tail heavy.  I was very surprised.  CG is noted
on
> > the plan. Fuselage is painted as are horizontal stab, elevator, and
rudder
> > which were also glassed.    Could be my glassing and paint job is heavy
> > although I would not have thought so much weight could be attributed to
> > this.  Rudder and Elevator servos are over the wing trailing edge as per
> > plan.  Battery pack has been moved to the firewall.  Used Central carbon
> > fiber push rod for elevator to MK dual bellcrank and MK control horns.
> > Push
> > pull cable on rudder.  Receiver and throttle servo are about at the CG.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]
> > On
> > Behalf Of Jim Ivey
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 5:24 AM
> > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > Subject: Re: Elan trouble
> >
> > Jerry
> > Why is it  tail heavy. Maybe you are using the wrong CG point or did you
> > put servos in the tail? Is the tail painted. I think figure out why,
then
> > solve the problem that way instead of adding all that weight.?
> >
> > Jim Ivey>
> >> From: "Jerry Wilson" <JWilsonJr at houston.rr.com>
> >> Date: 2005/06/29 Wed AM 07:14:53 EDT
> >> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> >> Subject: Elan trouble
> >>
> >> I have a dilemma and could use some advice from the group.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> After over a year of building I have nearly completed my Elan which is
my
> >> first attempt to build a fiberglass fuse pattern ship.  It is painted,
> >> covered, servos, push rods, and engine (120 four stroke) installed.
> > Weighs
> >> about 9 lbs.  Looks pretty nice.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The trouble is to get it to balance at the CG point on the plan (8"
from
> >> wing LE) requires 11 oz in the nose.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> According to Dick Hansen's plan the weight should be 8 - 10 lbs.  So it
> >> is
> >> still within the design range, at ~9.75 lbs.  But even if I can figure
a
> > way
> >> to add 11 oz of weight to the nose, I'm afraid the plane will not fly
the
> >> pattern well and am having serious doubts completing.  My intentions
were
> > to
> >> fly one or two more Sportsman contests with it and then move on to
> >> Intermediate.  Would appreciate some opinions/advice from the group:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Should I try to figure out a way to add 11 oz wt. to the nose securely
> >> and
> >> finish the plane?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Or abandon the ship and move on to something else?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> TIA
> >>
> >> Jerry
> >>
> >>
> >>
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