Landing Direction; Spins, and Snaps. . .

[Terry Terrenoire]

John: we found out 2 years ago that this is not the case. Yes, they have
10 min total, but are limited to just 3 min before they must be airborne.
I caught some flack for letting Peter go up with less than 5 min for his
flight, and this was during the finals. Noone came up to me a said he was
past the time limit, and there were plenty of knowledgable fyiers on hand
to so inform.

Terry T.

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:31:50 -0400 "John Ferrell"
<johnferrell at earthlink.net> writes:
> I have been involved with running the line at several Nats and at the 
> 
> World's in Pensacola.
> Generally speaking, making the decision to terminate a flight early 
> should 
> not be taken lightly. If your decision is overturned, the only 
> remedy is to 
> throw out the whole round for every one. Better to spend the time, 
> do the 
> flight and let the pattern lawyers do their thing!
> 
> The pilot paid his money for his time at bat, let him do his thing.
> 
> People running around in a panic on the line is a very bad thing 
> safetywise.
> 
> I like the way FAI does it best: You get 10 minutes for your flight, 
> spend 
> it your way!
> 
> John Ferrell
> http://DixieNC.US
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bob Richards" <bob at toprudder.com>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:37 AM
> Subject: Re: Landing Direction; Spins, and Snaps. . .
> 
> 
> >I have really been trying to stay out of the "scoring
> > TO and Landings" discussion since I voiced my opinion
> > way back when. However, I will add some real-world
> > data regarding time savings.
> >
> > During one round at the '93 Nats, I had an engine that
> > would not idle down without cutting off. I did
> > eventually get airborne, but ended up zeroing the
> > flight since I took 10 seconds over the required time
> > to get airborne. I understand the time limit is to
> > keep things moving, but in this case it did anything
> > but. I flew the whole flight, and the judges judged
> > the whole flight, the scribes wrote down every score.
> > It was not until I landed that I found out the round
> > was zeroed, and only because I saw the scribes erasing
> > the scores. It wasted a lot of people's time.
> >
> > The line judge should have immediately told me to stop
> > and let the next contestant fly, but I think he was
> > doing everything he could to be fair and wanted to
> > double check the rules. In fact, since I did get
> > airborne and was only 10 seconds over, he was going to
> > let it go until someone else not even flying in my
> > class complained.
> >
> > This whole episode was a bad experience for several
> > people, and would have been avoided entirely and saved
> > a LOT of time if the takeoff had not been scored.
> >
> > I learned to land/takeoff very well LONG before I
> > started flying pattern. However, I understand the
> > viewpoint of others, and I can see the point of
> > requiring scored takeoffs/landings in Sportsman and
> > Intermediate, much the way Novice used to have
> > straight flight out/back scored. It is an element that
> > is important and should be learned early.
> >
> > FWIW.
> >
> > Bob R.
> >
> > =================================================
> > To access the email archives for this list, go to
> > http://lists.f3a.us/pipermail/nsrca-discussion/
> > To be removed from this list, go to 
> http://www.nsrca.org/discussionA.htm
> > and follow the instructions.
> >
> > List members email returned for mailbox full will be removed from 
> the 
> > list.
> > 
> 
> 
> =================================================
> To access the email archives for this list, go to
> http://lists.f3a.us/pipermail/nsrca-discussion/
> To be removed from this list, go to 
> http://www.nsrca.org/discussionA.htm
> and follow the instructions.
> 
> List members email returned for mailbox full will be removed from 
> the list.
> 
> 
> 
=================================================
To access the email archives for this list, go to
http://lists.f3a.us/pipermail/nsrca-discussion/
To be removed from this list, go to http://www.nsrca.org/discussionA.htm
and follow the instructions.

List members email returned for mailbox full will be removed from the list.