Landing Direction; Spins, and Snaps. . .

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Tue Jun 14 07:25:24 AKDT 2005


"Takeoff Commencing"

Bob
> 
> From: "Grow Pattern" <pattern4u at comcast.net>
> Date: 2005/06/14 Tue AM 10:57:27 EDT
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Subject: Re: Landing Direction; Spins, and Snaps. . .
> 
> What is the rule this year if the plane is rolling as soon as the helper 
> lets go?
> 
> Eric.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Verne Koester" <verne at twmi.rr.com>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 10:28 AM
> Subject: Re: Landing Direction; Spins, and Snaps. . .
> 
> 
> > Bob,
> > I think your scenario is the hidden place where real time is saved, 
> > particularly on pavement where the idle has to be very low to keep the 
> > plane from rolling forward a little prior to takeoff. Last weekend in 
> > Muncie, over 125 takeoffs occurred on Saturday over the course of 4 
> > rounds. I don't recall a single instance where a plane quit out on the 
> > line and had to be brought in and restarted. It's been pointed out that 
> > there are other rules changes could accomplish the same thing and that's 
> > true. Right now, I'm just watching and trying to assess what's good and 
> > what's bad about the rules in place at the moment. My general perception 
> > after just one contest on pavement is that things seemed to go quicker and 
> > safer under the conditions we were flying in. There are many more contests 
> > to observe before the full impact can be truly evaluated.
> >
> > Verne
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Bob Richards" <bob at toprudder.com>
> > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:37 AM
> > Subject: Re: Landing Direction; Spins, and Snaps. . .
> >
> >
> >>I have really been trying to stay out of the "scoring
> >> TO and Landings" discussion since I voiced my opinion
> >> way back when. However, I will add some real-world
> >> data regarding time savings.
> >>
> >> During one round at the '93 Nats, I had an engine that
> >> would not idle down without cutting off. I did
> >> eventually get airborne, but ended up zeroing the
> >> flight since I took 10 seconds over the required time
> >> to get airborne. I understand the time limit is to
> >> keep things moving, but in this case it did anything
> >> but. I flew the whole flight, and the judges judged
> >> the whole flight, the scribes wrote down every score.
> >> It was not until I landed that I found out the round
> >> was zeroed, and only because I saw the scribes erasing
> >> the scores. It wasted a lot of people's time.
> >>
> >> The line judge should have immediately told me to stop
> >> and let the next contestant fly, but I think he was
> >> doing everything he could to be fair and wanted to
> >> double check the rules. In fact, since I did get
> >> airborne and was only 10 seconds over, he was going to
> >> let it go until someone else not even flying in my
> >> class complained.
> >>
> >> This whole episode was a bad experience for several
> >> people, and would have been avoided entirely and saved
> >> a LOT of time if the takeoff had not been scored.
> >>
> >> I learned to land/takeoff very well LONG before I
> >> started flying pattern. However, I understand the
> >> viewpoint of others, and I can see the point of
> >> requiring scored takeoffs/landings in Sportsman and
> >> Intermediate, much the way Novice used to have
> >> straight flight out/back scored. It is an element that
> >> is important and should be learned early.
> >>
> >> FWIW.
> >>
> >> Bob R.
> >>
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