Landing Direction; Spins, and Snaps. . .

[Ken Thompson]

You do have your flame suit on, don't you Eric? :-)

Ken
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Grow Pattern 
  To: discussion at nsrca.org 
  Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 5:53 PM
  Subject: Re: Landing Direction; Spins, and Snaps. . .


  Ach! I just hemorrhaged,
                                        The real issue is that we have different opinions creating two camps. It is normally a simple exercise to resolve these types of debate. We take a democratic vote. The majority wins and we move on. This is not the case and not what happened or happens here. The last survey vote was ignored and an individual proposal made. (It is more PC to say "individual" than "private"). It looks like that he survey vote will not even be waited for on landing direction.

  Mark Atwood encourages individual action and this type of proposal making. It sounds good at first until the contest board gets five different proposals on the same subject or even fifty. (Of course you might not know but there is a pre-filter on the front of the AMA contest board system that I have yet to decode?).

  It does beg the question of what is the point of belonging to a society if you don't support the gathering of survey answers like scoring 0 through 10 for take-offs and landings. Are you a society member when you agree and an individual AMA member when you don't?

  I took a bunch of heat for recanting what happened in the last cycle. Individuals made an individual proposal that not only was in direct opposition to the majority vote but also is causing a ton of explanation and translation work that falls back on the society and its officers. It does not inconvenience the individual proposers.

  Pointing out the individuals and their involvement and official AMA record of their involvement did get me some more direct and indirect hostile e-mail. There was even financial pressure put on the NSRCA because of my explanations of what went down. There was nothing in what I wrote that was a personal attack. They finally keyed in on my "teaser" about not living in Florida as being a mortal insult. I guess the smiley was just not cutting it?  

  My replies to the direct e-mail were/are simple. You wrote, you signed it, stand by what you did, stop trying to shoot the messenger, listen to the feedback and observe the confusion when proposals are not coordinated and "English/rules book" processed by our (the NSRCA) resources. You know, I did not see any offers to help or correct the situation, from the proposing individuals. I did see our very own Don Ramsey do work to try and clean it all up. I do see judging schools spending inordinate amounts of time on the subject. I do expect personal attacks to continue to be made in my direction. It always does when you hit a nerve.

  Eric.

   

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  >
  > From: discussion-request at nsrca.org 
  > [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Keith Black
  > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:19 AM
  > To: discussion at nsrca.org
  > Subject: Re: Landing Direction
  >  
  > Marguerite,
  >  
  > Actually, I don't think you're alone on this issue. The NSRCA poll 
  > showed overwhelmingly that the membership wanted scored t/o and 
  > landings as did the public outcry after the majority's desires were 
  > disregarded. Apparently even the contest board would have voted to 
  > keep the old rule but the question was worded in such a way to confuse 
  > two of the contest board members.
  >  
  > Now that the new messed up rule has caused so much confusion I think 
  > everyone is getting so fed-up with it that many would rather have 
  > nothing at all than what we have now. To me this has more to do with 
  > being sick of all the ridiculous discussions than a real desire of 
  > pattern pilots to not score t/o and landings.
  >  
  > I for one have been paying attention to take-offs and landings this 
  > year and find it a real shame that we don't have those beautiful 
  > centered liftoffs and gentle climb outs. The new guys coming into 
  > sportsman will miss out on this discipline.
  >  
  > Keith
  >  
  >   

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