Landing Direction

[Wayne Galligan]

Keith and Marguerite,

You have both hit on the point of all this in two area's.

1. The majority at one point thought the t/o and landings should have been scored.
2. The subject has been beaten so hard and wording of the new ruling has been interpreted so differently by so many that it is frustrating those that want to play the game.

There has to be a solid decision made soon.

To score...or not to score seem to be the only two viable options.

Wayne Galligan

FWIW....  I liked the scored t/o and landings.   But in the best interest of moving a contest along non-scored t/o's and landings is a viable option.




  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Keith Black 
  To: discussion at nsrca.org 
  Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:18 AM
  Subject: Re: Landing Direction


  Marguerite,

  Actually, I don't think you're alone on this issue. The NSRCA poll showed overwhelmingly that the membership wanted scored t/o and landings as did the public outcry after the majority's desires were disregarded. Apparently even the contest board would have voted to keep the old rule but the question was worded in such a way to confuse two of the contest board members. 

  Now that the new messed up rule has caused so much confusion I think everyone is getting so fed-up with it that many would rather have nothing at all than what we have now. To me this has more to do with being sick of all the ridiculous discussions than a real desire of pattern pilots to not score t/o and landings.

  I for one have been paying attention to take-offs and landings this year and find it a real shame that we don't have those beautiful centered liftoffs and gentle climb outs. The new guys coming into sportsman will miss out on this discipline.

  Keith


    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: MargueriteVG at aol.com 
    To: patternrules at earthlink.net ; discussion at nsrca.org 
    Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 8:58 AM
    Subject: Re: Landing Direction



    Good Morning...... oh oh  here goes...
     I agree it is important to encourage good landings and take  and I will add to your statement... why not all classes with take off and landing.  Yes, for the most part the pilots in the higher classes will ace the landing.   I have seen the higher classes mess up on the landings (yes and almost hit me while I was in a contest flying)
      Take off and landing perfectly all the time is the goal for any pilot.  This seems to be getting so involved. I know I am out for the most part alone on this issue and that is  fine with me.  ITs just that I would like to see the pattern community respect this issue and set a good example for all pilots joining on to Precision Aerobatics.
      A well done take off and a well done landing is certainly part of flying aerobatic competition in all classes. Its the start ... and it should be.  I was glad to see someone out there was thinking along the same lines here. 
    Marguerite

    In a message dated 6/13/2005 8:23:28 AM Eastern Standard Time, patternrules at earthlink.net writes:

      > Personally Jerry,  I'd like to see us score landings and take offs for
      Sportsman and Intermediate.  Given the k-factor of their total schedule
      it's a meaningful part, and the ability to land well in a high crosswind is
      something they'll need to be comfortable with, so it's worth rewarding ann
      motivating the practice required to do it well.
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