[SPAM] Re: New Sequences
Bill Glaze
billglaze at triad.rr.com
Thu Jun 9 10:35:59 AKDT 2005
Verne:
Well put! If they want to ignore those of us who have 'aged out"<G>
certainly that could be done. But, last time I looked, my $20 was
accepted as quickly as the hotshot who is on his way up, and I swelled
the contest roster by 1 person, anyway. Bill Glaze D2 VP
Ed Hartley wrote:
> Well said Verne! Since I reached the ripe young age of seventy-three
> and for flying purposes became a one eyed pilot, I can appreciate the
> class thing. I am still trying to fly Masters but it really is an
> uphill battle. Not like it was even ten years ago!
>
> I am trying with great difficulty to stay away from the "why-bother"
> level!
>
> Best,
> Ed Hartley
> roho2 at rcpattern.com <mailto:roho2 at rcpattern.com>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Verne Koester <mailto:verne at twmi.rr.com>
> To: discussion at nsrca.org <mailto:discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: New Sequences
>
> Terry,
> There are rules proposals in the survey that cover your situation.
> Many of them make a lot of sense, at least to me. You can find
> them as well as the proposed schedules on the NSRCA site. It's a
> little tricky, but we have to deal with the fact that there are a
> lot of guys who just love to fly pattern, support our contests and
> are our friends that won't make it to the top. The reasons can be
> job/family demands, financial, skill or deteriorating skill with
> age, or any number of other factors. The trick is to adopt rules
> that accommodate those things while still preventing the trophy
> hog from laying around in a class year after year. Some of the
> proposals address those things and merit all of our attention. If
> we ignore them, we'll find our already-shrinking local contests
> reduced to a "why-bother" level.
>
> Verne
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Terry Terrenoire <mailto:amad2terry at juno.com>
> To: discussion at nsrca.org <mailto:discussion at nsrca.org>
> Cc: discussion at nsrca.org <mailto:discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 6:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: New Sequences
>
> Just another comment. Keep in mind that I have not seen the
> new sequence yet.
>
> I have been flying Advance since 1989, before turnaround. I
> don't believe I have won a contest in that time, and have had
> only a couple of 2nds. Right now, I am looking at the jump to
> Masters as being too big for me. I have learned to handle the
> current schedule, maybe not as smoothly as most, but I can get
> thru the sequence without embarresing myself.
>
> If the new sequence is "easier", I can see myself in a
> position where I could be winning some contests, and would be
> forced out of the class, again with a much bigger leap to a
> class I feel is already beyond my abilities.
>
> At my age, learning new tricks, when the old have not been
> perfected, may just push some of us in similar situations
> completely out of the mix.
>
> Terry T.
>
>
> On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:40:24 -0700 (PDT) Rodney Tanner
> <rodney19821982 at yahoo.com <mailto:rodney19821982 at yahoo.com>>
> writes:
>
> Bill, Mike:
> I see the argument for a smoother transition between 402
> and 403 and in the context of the overall progression
> through the classes it is probably a valid one, especially
> for the Intermediate guy coming up. Personally, though, I
> am glad for the leap I am going through in the current 403
> - Advanced and can´t wait to go up to Masters, which I
> now see as more of a logical step up, rather than the big,
> intentional, leap it will be in the future.
> Good job guys.
>
> Rodney
>
> Mike Hester <kerlock at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> What Bill said.
>
> We had 2 choices to smooth out that huge leap between
> 402 and 403: make 402
> tougher or make 403 slightly easier. The overwhelming
> majority was against
> making 402 any tougher, so we went this way. Like Bill
> said, look at the
> schedules in relation to each other and consider that
> carefully before
> anyone votes on them. There are a couple of ways we
> could end up with a
> worse problem than we currently have. My hope is
> everyone will put a lot of
> thought into their choices. I'm reminded of teh old
> knight at the end of
> Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade....."choose
> wisely". Look what happened
> to the guy that picked the wrong one. Eek.
>
> -Mike
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Pritchett"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 8:03 PM
> Subject: New Sequences
>
>
> > Rodney:
> > Both proposed Advanced schedules are "easier" than
> the current Advanced
> > schedule. This was one of the criteria that we
> worked with, based upon
> > overwhelming opinion that the jump to Advanced is
> currently too much. I
> > like both schedules (not because I'm on the
> committee...hehe), but what
> > this WILL do is make the jump to Masters much bigger
> for the guys that
> > will come through these schedules. I am sort of a
> victim of having made
> > the current jump, and now that I've made it, felt
> that I could objectively
> > help others coming up in seasons to come not deal
> with some of the issues
> > current Advanced flyers have had to handle. Our
> current schedule calls
> > for 10 maneuvers prior to a cross box turnaround.
> Although there is
> > discussion on the list right now about being on that
> "line", and a cross
> > box being a bother, let's face it, most Advanced
> flyers need to adjust
> > in/out earlier than 10 maneuvers in. Lots of thought
> and discussion went
> > into these, and I'm sure that everyone on the
> committee hopes that the
> > NSRCA membership takes a deep collective breath
> before making any
> > judgments. One thing we all tried to do is make it
> more even in jumps
> > between classes, up to Masters. We all seemed to
> agree that Masters
> > should be the "big" jump, and a jump that provides a
> class of
> > "Destination" for some, and FAI prep for others. I
> hope that you, and
> > others, will look at the proposed Advanced schedule
> as a part of the
> > whole, and not a direct comparison to the present.
> > Thanks
> > Bill
> >
> >
> > Bill Pritchett
> > 765-744-9322
> >
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