[SPAM] Re: New Sequences

Bill Glaze billglaze at triad.rr.com
Thu Jun 9 10:35:59 AKDT 2005


Verne:
Well put!  If they want to ignore those of us who have 'aged out"<G> 
certainly that could be done.  But, last time I looked, my $20 was 
accepted as quickly as the hotshot who is on his way up, and I swelled 
the contest roster by 1 person, anyway.  Bill Glaze D2 VP

Ed Hartley wrote:

> Well said Verne! Since I reached the ripe young age of seventy-three 
> and for flying purposes became a one eyed pilot, I can appreciate the 
> class thing. I am still trying to fly Masters but it really is an 
> uphill battle. Not like it was even ten years ago!
>  
> I am trying with great difficulty to stay away from the "why-bother" 
> level!
>  
> Best,
> Ed Hartley
> roho2 at rcpattern.com <mailto:roho2 at rcpattern.com>
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Verne Koester <mailto:verne at twmi.rr.com>
>     To: discussion at nsrca.org <mailto:discussion at nsrca.org>
>     Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:12 AM
>     Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: New Sequences
>
>     Terry,
>     There are rules proposals in the survey that cover your situation.
>     Many of them make a lot of sense, at least to me. You can find
>     them as well as the proposed schedules on the NSRCA site. It's a
>     little tricky, but we have to deal with the fact that there are a
>     lot of guys who just love to fly pattern, support our contests and
>     are our friends that won't make it to the top. The reasons can be
>     job/family demands, financial, skill or deteriorating skill with
>     age, or any number of other factors. The trick is to adopt rules
>     that accommodate those things while still preventing the trophy
>     hog from laying around in a class year after year. Some of the
>     proposals address those things and merit all of our attention. If
>     we ignore them, we'll find our already-shrinking local contests
>     reduced to a "why-bother" level.
>      
>     Verne
>
>         ----- Original Message -----
>         From: Terry Terrenoire <mailto:amad2terry at juno.com>
>         To: discussion at nsrca.org <mailto:discussion at nsrca.org>
>         Cc: discussion at nsrca.org <mailto:discussion at nsrca.org>
>         Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 6:37 AM
>         Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: New Sequences
>
>         Just another comment. Keep in mind that I have not seen the
>         new sequence yet.
>          
>         I have been flying Advance since 1989, before turnaround. I
>         don't believe I have won a contest in that time, and have had
>         only a couple of 2nds. Right now, I am looking at the jump to
>         Masters as being too big for me. I have learned to handle the
>         current schedule, maybe not as smoothly as most, but I can get
>         thru the sequence without embarresing myself.
>          
>         If the new sequence is "easier", I can see myself in a
>         position where I could be winning some contests, and would be
>         forced out of the class, again with a much bigger leap to a
>         class I feel is already beyond my abilities.
>          
>         At my age, learning new tricks, when the old have not been
>         perfected, may just push some of us in similar situations
>         completely out of the mix.
>          
>         Terry T.
>          
>          
>         On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:40:24 -0700 (PDT) Rodney Tanner
>         <rodney19821982 at yahoo.com <mailto:rodney19821982 at yahoo.com>>
>         writes:
>
>             Bill, Mike:
>             I see the argument for a smoother transition between 402
>             and 403 and in the context of the overall progression
>             through the classes it is probably a valid one, especially
>             for the Intermediate guy coming up. Personally, though,  I
>             am glad for the leap I am going through in the current 403
>             - Advanced  and can´t wait to go up to Masters, which I
>             now see as more of a logical step up, rather than the big,
>             intentional, leap it will be in the future. 
>             Good job guys.
>              
>             Rodney 
>
>             Mike Hester <kerlock at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>                 What Bill said.
>
>                 We had 2 choices to smooth out that huge leap between
>                 402 and 403: make 402
>                 tougher or make 403 slightly easier. The overwhelming
>                 majority was against
>                 making 402 any tougher, so we went this way. Like Bill
>                 said, look at the
>                 schedules in relation to each other and consider that
>                 carefully before
>                 anyone votes on them. There are a couple of ways we
>                 could end up with a
>                 worse problem than we currently have. My hope is
>                 everyone will put a lot of
>                 thought into their choices. I'm reminded of teh old
>                 knight at the end of
>                 Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade....."choose
>                 wisely". Look what happened
>                 to the guy that picked the wrong one. Eek.
>
>                 -Mike
>                 ----- Original Message -----
>                 From: "Bill Pritchett"
>                 To:
>                 Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 8:03 PM
>                 Subject: New Sequences
>
>
>                 > Rodney:
>                 > Both proposed Advanced schedules are "easier" than
>                 the current Advanced
>                 > schedule. This was one of the criteria that we
>                 worked with, based upon
>                 > overwhelming opinion that the jump to Advanced is
>                 currently too much. I
>                 > like both schedules (not because I'm on the
>                 committee...hehe), but what
>                 > this WILL do is make the jump to Masters much bigger
>                 for the guys that
>                 > will come through these schedules. I am sort of a
>                 victim of having made
>                 > the current jump, and now that I've made it, felt
>                 that I could objectively
>                 > help others coming up in seasons to come not deal
>                 with some of the issues
>                 > current Advanced flyers have had to handle. Our
>                 current schedule calls
>                 > for 10 maneuvers prior to a cross box turnaround.
>                 Although there is
>                 > discussion on the list right now about being on that
>                 "line", and a cross
>                 > box being a bother, let's face it, most Advanced
>                 flyers need to adjust
>                 > in/out earlier than 10 maneuvers in. Lots of thought
>                 and discussion went
>                 > into these, and I'm sure that everyone on the
>                 committee hopes that the
>                 > NSRCA membership takes a deep collective breath
>                 before making any
>                 > judgments. One thing we all tried to do is make it
>                 more even in jumps
>                 > between classes, up to Masters. We all seemed to
>                 agree that Masters
>                 > should be the "big" jump, and a jump that provides a
>                 class of
>                 > "Destination" for some, and FAI prep for others. I
>                 hope that you, and
>                 > others, will look at the proposed Advanced schedule
>                 as a part of the
>                 > whole, and not a direct comparison to the present.
>                 > Thanks
>                 > Bill
>                 >
>                 >
>                 > Bill Pritchett
>                 > 765-744-9322
>                 >
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