Flying the new sequences

spbyrum spbyrum at hiwaay.net
Mon Jun 6 11:56:11 AKDT 2005


That's because of the smile, Bill.  P factor, you know, must always be
taken into account.
 
Steve Byrum 
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Steve:
How about a hook?  I used to have a lot of golf balls that had a
built-in hook.  Bill

spbyrum wrote:


Golf ball is round like a loop, but you have to be able to put a big
smile in the side of it.  It doesn't matter which side, so that makes it
a Golf Ball with options.
 
Steve Byrum 
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Anybody been able to fugure out a "golf ball?"  Some of  the folks
around here can't.  Including me.  Bill Glaze

Lance Van Nostrand wrote: 
At the Broken Arrow contest a bunch of the flyers got together and
reviewed the new proposals.  Dan Curtis flew the Intermediate sequences
(options A & B) and I (Lance) flew the Advanced.  Bill Ahrens was
supposed to fly the Masters, but he was too chicken to do it in the
dark.  Imagine that.  Here are some comments from the group for the
Sportsman thru Advanced.  For Masters, we never had the chance to
discuss as a group so those comments are purely mine.
 
First, let me say that the work put into these is evident and
exceptional.  There isn't really a bad solution and both options are
good.  Thanks to everyone involved.  It's really a situation where
choosing means being very picky, so everyone involved should be proud of
the options they created.  I can see advantages/disadvantages to
manuvers in these sequences, but will not use this note to go to that
detail.  Just the factors that tipped the balance.
 
sportsman:
Option A was the group choice only because B has the vertical upline on
center and many underpowered sportsman planes can't do this.  We already
see plenty of trouble with stall turns and in a stall turn you don't
have to be able to push out, just fall.
 
Intermediate:
Option B was the choice because the 2 outside loops + Cuban 8 + double
immelman made the sequence longer in time at essentially the same
Kfactor.  B will move better at big contests and introduces a shark's
tooth, which we haven't seen in pattern maybe ever.
 
Advanced:
Option B mostly because we need a cuban 8 before masters (it combines so
many elements) and partly because the 2 outside loops in A, although
excellent skill builders can kind of long to watch.
 
Masters 2007: 
My choice: Option B because it looks way more fun and has new stuff (8
point roll, figure M).  Also, the 1 1/2 downline snap in A is sure to
cause controversy AGAIN.
 
Masters 2009:
My choice: Option A. this is a hard one because A continues the 8 pt
roll, but it has lots of cool stuff.  the 1 1/2 snap is in both A & B so
that can't be differentiator.  Option B just seems more normal (except
for the "spring coil" which I don't know what it is).  Overall option A
has an interesting cuban and avalanche, and 8 sided loop, reversed
spins, etc.  It will look very different.
 
--Lance
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