Rules Survey - Track v.s. Heading

vicenterc at comcast.net vicenterc at comcast.net
Sun Jun 5 14:33:06 AKDT 2005


Isn't the AMA tape clear on this?  In the seminars, we are using the tape as a primary source of reference.  I am going to see the tape in these days and check.

VB

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> Bob, 
> No, 
> Don 
> 
> PS: This has been incorrect forever and ignored by the judges. The 
> downgrades under the individual maneuvers referring to heading when track is 
> actually meant is ridiculous. 
> 
> Don 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bob Pastorello" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 12:25 PM 
> Subject: Re: Rules Survey - Track v.s. Heading 
> 
> 
> > This weekend, had an interesting discussion with some folks at the Tulsa 
> > contest. My comments related to "track" of loops, part loops, etc....I 
> > have always believed that the TRACK of the maneuver was to be constant, 
> > either parallel or perpendicular to, the "flight line" established as the 
> > parallel line to the centerline of the runway. 
> > 
> > In all the manuever DOWNGRADES in the AMA regs, nearly every loop or 
> > part-looping maneuver downgrade lists "Heading" changes as cause for 
> > downgrade. 
> > 
> > As we all know from flying crosswinds, heading and track are only the same 
> > in a zero wind condition where the flight path and the centerline of the 
> > fuselage are parallel (or identical). 
> > When wind corrections get introduced to the mix, the HEADING is offset 
> > *usually INTO the prevailing crosswind component*, so that the TRACK of 
> > the manuever is maintained. 
> > 
> > Can anyone find the reference where the AMA Judge's Guidelines, or 
> > downgrades, refer properly to TRACK (as they likely were intended to 
> > be!!!) ???? 
> > 
> > Bob Pastorello 
> > www.rcaerobats.net 
> > rcaerobob at cox.net 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: Don Ramsey 
> > To: discussion at nsrca.org 
> > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 8:38 PM 
> > Subject: Re: Rules Survey 
> > 
> > 
> > Looks like the deadline for comments only in June 7th. The final survery 
> > will be complete around that time and will be voted at a later date. 
> > 
> > Don 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: vicenterc at comcast.net 
> > To: discussion at nsrca.org ; discussion at nsrca.org 
> > Cc: Don Ramsey 
> > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 8:04 AM 
> > Subject: Re: Rules Survey 
> > 
> > 
> > Don, 
> > 
> > When is the dead line to send you the survey? 
> > 
> > Looks very good to me. Thanks for all work done. 
> > 
> > Vicente Bortone 
> > 
> > -------------- Original message -------------- 
> > 
> >> Everyone, 
> >> 
> >> Just found out that I have about 4 more days for comments or suggestions 
> >> on 
> >> proposals for the next rules cycle. The survey can be viewed on 
> >> http://www.nsrca.org/competition/judging/judging.htm 
> >> 
> >> You must have your comment or suggestions to me don.ramsey at cox.net by 
> >> 6-7-2005. 
> >> 
> >> There is a short dicussion from FAI about the weight limits at the end of 
> >> the survey. If you would like to write a counter to this, I'll take some 
> >> of 
> >> the comments and add them to the document. 
> >> 
> >> Don Ramsey 
> >> NSRCA Judging Committee Chairman 
> >> AMA 6096 NSRCA 1506 
> >> email: don.ramsey at cox.net 
> >> website: http://members.cox.net/don.ramsey 
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