Leaving Early NATS 05

[Dean Pappas]

Hi Gang,
Well, I guess that there is a sort of consistency ... we were ungrateful and harsh to the volunteer judges that came to the NATs every year to judge without flying, and now we are harsh to each other, when we take our turns in the chair.
 
It is an awful shame because there really are a very few shirkers, out there, and we allow them to change the way we all treat each other. Cameron provides a good example.  These are probably the same guys who duck into the shoulder and drive around the civil folk, in traffic jams.
 
Is it time to create a "professional" judging cadre, again? 
 
Regards,
    Dean P.
 
Dean Pappas 
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Kodeos Communications 
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-----Original Message-----
From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Ed Hartley
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:38 PM
To: discussion at nsrca.org
Subject: Re: Leaving Early NATS 05


Amen Cameron, as far as I'm concerned, you did it RIGHT! I can't think of anything you could have done differently. 
 
The judging thing has been a problem since the early seventies when I went to my first NATS. Since that time, I haven't seen anyone come up with a solution that is fool proof and it just ain't gonna happen! 
 
After paying the entry fees, all the rest etc., and you need to leave, tell the CD! That should be sufficient!
 
Just model airplanes guys!
Ed Hartley
roho2 at rcpattern.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Cameron Smith <mailto:dentdoc007 at adelphia.net>  
To: Discussion <mailto:discussion at nsrca.org>  
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:07 PM
Subject: Leaving Early NATS 05

I guess I could be quiet on this subject but since there might be some misinformed people out there:
 I did withdraw from the 05 Nats for personal reasons on the 2nd day of the contest. I did fulfill my Judging assignment on the first day. Site 1 for FAI.
I did FACE to Face advise Dave Guerin THE CD that I was a Withdrawal. He did have me down to judge on multiple days. I knew this & out of respect to him & the situation advise him of my early departure. 
 
 Now I hear talk being bantered about that punishment & Black listing are in order. New rules & fee's for people that will take a week off work, Drive across the country, Pay the hotel bills, Pay the entry fee's, Practice & build.  Some of us do this without support groups of friends & fellow pilots. Have a bad time & leave early. 
 Why don't you just say "Don't come back?"
 
 Then go post on the thread "What's wrong with pattern"
   
 
 
                                                       Respectfully
 
                                                            Cameron Smith
 
 
 
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