Nats Judging

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I'm with you on this John. In fact we have a whole bunch of "lessons learned" to look at for a whole year. Dave has started his planning this week. One thing that would change the logistics a lot would be full or part time judges.

If you do the math you have the following-

3 judges  x 2 flightlines  = 6 per site x 3 sites = 18 in the morning and a new 18 in the afternoon = 36 judges to do just one day.  Three days of that is 108 judges.  If you start with 107 pilots you need help. If you lose a pilot for whatever reason you need help.

I take my hat off to any pilot who flies and judges more than 1/2 a day. You can say goodbye to any practicing, burn out your eyes and completely mess up your concentration. I know from personal experience of just doing one morning of 20 masters pilots I had to "re-program" for while before I flew my own rounds.

I also take my hat of to Dave and his predecessors who have made this all work.

Then don't forget Don Ramsey who has to run around finding twenty plus judges for the Thursday finals!

Regards,

Eric.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John Ferrell 
  To: discussion at nsrca.org 
  Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 8:56 AM
  Subject: Re: Nats Judging Rebate


  The problem of judging no-shows is in the CD's domain. Only he can really address it. It escapes me how a contestant can get to the line without getting the contestant package. No contestant ID = no fly!

  Although it appears that contest management could reassign no-show slots on Sunday night, it does not create an unreasonable delay on Monday morning. Things are pretty hectic from Sunday afternoon until mid morning on Monday. Much of the time contestants are delayed by travel problems or by personal/family problems. Why further add to their woes? There will always be a few last minute problems to be resolved.

  The Nats are a very big deal to a lot of people. Dreams are both fulfilled and shattered. Most contestants are in a high adrenaline state. While failing to fulfill a judging assignment is an inconvenience to contest management, it is time of crisis for the contestants whose expectations have been shattered. 

  As a Line Director I get to observe the stress and strain that many experience. I feel for them and share their emotions, both positive and negative. The contestant that is unable to face his peers after a disaster day deserves our sympathy more than our criticism. 

  BTW, the guys that step up and fill those extra judging slots are the heroes of the day. 

  John Ferrell    
  http://DixieNC.US

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Rick Wallace 
    To: discussion at nsrca.org 
    Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 4:36 PM
    Subject: Re: Nats Judging Rebate


    I don't like the idea of a mandatory $50 judging performance bond for our National contest... 

    Don't see how to mitigate further against a guy forgetting a judging assignment, especially given the great info packets that we received - it was all there. Five minutes finding your name on the sheets and marking them up and you knew where and when to be there!

    Given a mandatory sign in at the Farm House on arrival in Muncie, and a mandatory pilot's meeting Sunday night, it's hard to see how a no-show should have been a surprise on Monday morning. Seems there were lots of opportunities to count noses before Monday dawn...

    Maybe a getting a list of those who didn't sign in before pilot's meeting//  and during the meeting ID'ing those pilots who didn't go by the farm house (can't be many - call their names at the pilot meeting to see if they're there?) , and confirm Monday's judging assignments (either by calling names and getting responses or by a posted list with a place for the assigned judge to initial...?) 

    And... this way, while the pilot meeting is still going on, there's max opportunity to ID a replacement judge. 

    My $0.02...
    Rick Wallace 
    AMA L727
    NSRCA 2972

    >----- Original Message -----
    >From: Ron Van Putte <vanputte at cox.net>
    >Date: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:33 am
    >Subject: Nats Judging Rebate
    >
    > > Last week at the Nats, I had a talk with Nats event director, Dave
    > > Guerin about judging no-shows.  On the very first morning, Dave
    > > had at
    > > least three no-shows (F3A pilots who were supposed to judge the
    > > Master
    > > class).  You can imagine the frustration of trying to reschedule
    > > pilots
    > > to cover for them, not to mention the delay in getting the events
    > > started.  This was not an isolated case.  It happened over and
    > > over
    > > during the week.  Some just forgot when they were supposed to
    > > judge.
    > > There were even some who were scheduled to judge on the third day,
    > > who
    > > decided to leave after two days and didn't tell anyone.
    > >
    > > We discussed having a "$50 judging rebate".  It would work like
    > > this:
    > > In addition to the normal entry fees, $50 would be collected.  If
    > > a
    > > pilot showed up to perform his scheduled judging session, he'd get
    > > a
    > > $50 rebate.  If a pilot didn't show up to perform his scheduled
    > > judging
    > > session, the replacement judge would get the $50.  BTW, the normal
    > > stipend for pilots who perform extra judging sessions is $30.
    > > Comments?
    > >
    > > Ron Van Putte
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