Throt/ Rud

[Jim Ivey]

 Ed ,I knew you were lurking back there.

Jim I
> 
> From: "Ed Hartley" <roho2 at rcpattern.com>
> Date: 2005/01/27 Thu PM 12:12:36 EST
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Subject: Re: RE: Throt/ Rud
> 
> Blue fuel, four blade props and Mode 4?
> 
> Ed
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim Ivey" <jivey61 at bellsouth.net>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 11:01 AM
> Subject: RE: RE: Throt/ Rud
> 
> 
> > Steve
> > Don't know, but it might be that the boundry layer would skip the wind 
> > right over the holes.
> > It would be lighter tho'.
> > I think Ed Hartley does this. He has some kinda secret weapon when I fly 
> > against him, or must be the blue fuel.
> >
> > Jim Ivey
> >>
> >> From: "spbyrum" <spbyrum at hiwaay.net>
> >> Date: 2005/01/27 Thu AM 10:41:47 EST
> >> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> >> Subject: RE: RE: Throt/ Rud
> >>
> >> Would that make them whistle real neat like a Stuka????
> >>
> >> Steve Byrum
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]
> >> On Behalf Of Jim Ivey
> >> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 8:45 AM
> >> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> >> Subject: Re: RE: Throt/ Rud
> >>
> >>  Steve
> >> I think you should drill some holes in your prop blades and make them
> >> lighter.
> >>
> >> Jim Ivey
> >> >
> >> > From: "spbyrum" <spbyrum at hiwaay.net>
> >> > Date: 2005/01/27 Thu AM 09:36:18 EST
> >> > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> >> > Subject: RE: Throt/ Rud
> >> >
> >> > The question becomes how small a diameter prop and how slow must you
> >> go
> >> > for this situation to kick in.  SPA doesn't fly rockets like the old
> >> > days.  Noise is a bad thing.  4 strokes with larger props slow us
> >> down,
> >> > too.
> >> >
> >> > Steve Byrum
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
> >> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]
> >> > On Behalf Of John Pavlick
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 11:48 PM
> >> > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> >> > Subject: RE: Throt/ Rud
> >> >
> >> > Ed,
> >> >  Sure, but you can only fly planes like that in SPA!!! (Or Sportsman).
> >> > My Super Kaos Jr. is set 0-0-0. Just a little bit of right rudder and
> >> up
> >> > elev. trim - still tracks down lines straight. I don't mix anything
> >> with
> >> > the radio - it's all done the old fashioned way!
> >> > John Pavlick
> >> > http://www.idseng.com <http://www.idseng.com/>
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
> >> > [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Ed Hartley
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 10:35 PM
> >> > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> >> > Subject: Re: Throt/ Rud
> >> > Think about having the trim and thrust where you don't have to do
> >> > either?????
> >> >
> >> > Ed
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> > From: John Pavlick <mailto:jpavlick at idseng.com>
> >> > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 10:13 PM
> >> > Subject: RE: Throt/ Rud
> >> >
> >> > Ed,
> >> >  Don't think about inverted / upright / right / left like that. It's
> >> all
> >> > the same to the airplane. Upright the slip stream hits the left side
> >> of
> >> > the fin causing Left yaw. For sake of argument: Right thrust will be
> >> > used to counteract this. Inverted, the SAME THING happens. Don't think
> >> > right / left in reference to YOU, think left / right in reference to
> >> the
> >> > AIRPLANE. When inverted the slip stream hits the left side (still) of
> >> > the fin - unless the motor suddenly starts turning the opposite way.
> >> > Same thrust offset ("Right") required unless the slip stream goes away
> >> > in a push. Now if there's right thrust, you need left rudder to offset
> >> > the right thrust which is trying to make the airplane yaw right in the
> >> > absence of the slip stream air on the fin. If you still want to think
> >> > about it the "other" way, remember "left" rudder when inverted will
> >> make
> >> > the plane yaw to the "right" (in reference to YOU standing there
> >> > watching the plane). Now I'm getting confused.
> >> >  If you think about what Chip described: Trim for straight flight at
> >> > full throttle, mix left at idle. Another way would be trim straight at
> >> > idle, mix right at full throttle. That's what I've been doing. Same
> >> > difference.
> >> > John Pavlick
> >> > http://www.idseng.com <http://www.idseng.com/>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
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