Throt/ Rud

[rcaerobob at cox.net]

Jim - Nat's "secret" is that he is only SLIGHTLY older than Ron VP.... that iniimidates youngsters...
Bob P
(nearly old)
> 
> From: Jim Ivey <jivey61 at bellsouth.net>
> Date: 2005/01/27 Thu AM 11:01:45 EST
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Subject: RE: RE: Throt/ Rud
> 
>  Steve
>  Don't know, but it might be that the boundry layer would skip the wind  right over the holes.
> It would be lighter tho'.
> I think Ed Hartley does this. He has some kinda secret weapon when I fly against him, or must be the blue fuel.
> 
> Jim Ivey
> > 
> > From: "spbyrum" <spbyrum at hiwaay.net>
> > Date: 2005/01/27 Thu AM 10:41:47 EST
> > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > Subject: RE: RE: Throt/ Rud
> > 
> > Would that make them whistle real neat like a Stuka????
> > 
> > Steve Byrum 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]
> > On Behalf Of Jim Ivey
> > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 8:45 AM
> > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > Subject: Re: RE: Throt/ Rud
> > 
> >  Steve
> > I think you should drill some holes in your prop blades and make them
> > lighter.
> > 
> > Jim Ivey
> > > 
> > > From: "spbyrum" <spbyrum at hiwaay.net>
> > > Date: 2005/01/27 Thu AM 09:36:18 EST
> > > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > > Subject: RE: Throt/ Rud
> > > 
> > > The question becomes how small a diameter prop and how slow must you
> > go
> > > for this situation to kick in.  SPA doesn't fly rockets like the old
> > > days.  Noise is a bad thing.  4 strokes with larger props slow us
> > down,
> > > too.
> > >  
> > > Steve Byrum 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
> > [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]
> > > On Behalf Of John Pavlick
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 11:48 PM
> > > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > > Subject: RE: Throt/ Rud
> > >  
> > > Ed,
> > >  Sure, but you can only fly planes like that in SPA!!! (Or Sportsman).
> > > My Super Kaos Jr. is set 0-0-0. Just a little bit of right rudder and
> > up
> > > elev. trim - still tracks down lines straight. I don't mix anything
> > with
> > > the radio - it's all done the old fashioned way! 
> > > John Pavlick
> > > http://www.idseng.com <http://www.idseng.com/> 
> > >   
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
> > > [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Ed Hartley
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 10:35 PM
> > > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > > Subject: Re: Throt/ Rud
> > > Think about having the trim and thrust where you don't have to do
> > > either?????
> > > 
> > > Ed
> > >  
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: John Pavlick <mailto:jpavlick at idseng.com>  
> > > To: discussion at nsrca.org 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 10:13 PM
> > > Subject: RE: Throt/ Rud
> > >  
> > > Ed,
> > >  Don't think about inverted / upright / right / left like that. It's
> > all
> > > the same to the airplane. Upright the slip stream hits the left side
> > of
> > > the fin causing Left yaw. For sake of argument: Right thrust will be
> > > used to counteract this. Inverted, the SAME THING happens. Don't think
> > > right / left in reference to YOU, think left / right in reference to
> > the
> > > AIRPLANE. When inverted the slip stream hits the left side (still) of
> > > the fin - unless the motor suddenly starts turning the opposite way.
> > > Same thrust offset ("Right") required unless the slip stream goes away
> > > in a push. Now if there's right thrust, you need left rudder to offset
> > > the right thrust which is trying to make the airplane yaw right in the
> > > absence of the slip stream air on the fin. If you still want to think
> > > about it the "other" way, remember "left" rudder when inverted will
> > make
> > > the plane yaw to the "right" (in reference to YOU standing there
> > > watching the plane). Now I'm getting confused.
> > >  If you think about what Chip described: Trim for straight flight at
> > > full throttle, mix left at idle. Another way would be trim straight at
> > > idle, mix right at full throttle. That's what I've been doing. Same
> > > difference. 
> > > John Pavlick
> > > http://www.idseng.com <http://www.idseng.com/> 
> > >   
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
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