Desafio 2000 S

Wed Jan 26 04:49:44 AKST 2005

Peter,

This post started out as me asking for information on where I could find a Desafio kit. What I ended up with was a total trash of the airplane. Lets see what happens when I ask this question on the forum. " What plane would you recommend?"

Dan
> 
> From: "Peter Pennisi" <pentagon.systems at bigpond.com>
> Date: 2005/01/25 Tue PM 11:38:01 EST
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Subject: RE: Desafio 2000 S
> 
> 
> 
> Dan,
> 
> I flew a friend's model with the latest changes. To say the least I wasn’t
> impressed. The model is certainly capable but you have to work to damm hard
> to make a good flight. The model was at its best in the dead calm. Throw in
> a bit of wind which meant you had to fly the rudder you start to realise
> that it was not a good model. The only way the model presents OK is if you
> fly it flat out so that smaller amounts of rudder are only used.
> 
> I fly F3A in Aus. The model just doesn’t have it at that level. In the lower
> classes you may get good results because you tend not to touch the rudder
> too much.
> 
> Just my opinion for what it’s worth.
> 
> There are much better models out there these days. Try to get your hands on
> one and see what I mean.
> 
> Peter
> 
> 
> Peter Pennisi
> Pentagon Systems QLD Pty Ltd
> P.O Box 4280
> Eight Mile Plains
> QLD 4113
> Australia
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> ________________________________________
> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org] On
> Behalf Of Holzworth
> Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2005 1:29 PM
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Subject: Re: Desafio 2000 S
> 
> The latest improvements were lowering the horizontal stab 20 mm , changing
> the rake of the vertical stab and rudder, changing the incidence of the main
> wing and horizontal stab to rotate the plane to get rid of the tail low
> attitude and changing the gear. So far so good.
> 
> Dan
> 
> Bob Pastorello wrote:
> 
> Dan - I'm glad yours is working;  I had one of the early ones that had the
> wing improperly located, then the CG was wrong, then the stab position, then
> the "size" of the stab....you get the picture.
>  
> In all honesty, I bought it because I thought it would be just great.  Sorta
> like the current Quique Yak 54 is reported to be.  
>  
> I wish I'd hung in there a bit, but with all the jacking around with it, I
> took the coward's way out.  I'm betting that several things got "fixed"
> before you got yours, and sure wish you well with it!!!
> 
> Bob Pastorello
> NSRCA 199  AMA 46373
> rcaerobob at cox.net
> www.rcaerobats.net
>  
>  
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Holzworth 
> To: discussion at nsrca.org 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 8:25 PM
> Subject: Re: Desafio 2000 S
> 
> Sorry to hear that. It is pitch sensative  dialed down the throw added a
> little expo everthings ok. Not sure what your problem was with ground
> clearance but I hav eth bolly desafio gear and use a 17-10 still on the
> original prop no nicks yet.  Have not  touhed the cg, aileron throw or
> rudder throw since the original flight seems ok to me but I am a beginner we
> will see how I do in the new season. 
> 
> Dan
> 
> Bob Pastorello wrote:
> 
> Actually, because of the gear location (too far aft) and too short, the 16.5
> x 12 two blade Bolly bit it on the FIRST TAXI...after the air cleared from
> the blue haze of my expletives, I put on a shorter APC flavor airscrew, and
> it staggerred into the air, pitching and porpoising all the way.  That was
> how I found out it had WAY too much elevator, and not NEARLY enough anything
> else.
>     So it flew...and hands off, it was WONDERFUL.  But make a rudder,
> elevator, or aileron correction, and it was all over the place.
>     I remember an eye-witness asking me "Have you got it?"
>  
> Not too long before it went south.
> 
> Bob Pastorello
> NSRCA 199  AMA 46373
> rcaerobob at cox.net
> www.rcaerobats.net
>  
>  
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Holzworth 
> To: discussion at nsrca.org 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 8:09 PM
> Subject: Re: Desafio 2000 S
> 
> If it were that bad how did it get off the ground.
> 
> Ed Hartley wrote:
> 
> To land early? ? ? ?
> 
> Ed
>  
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Bob Pastorello 
> To: discussion at nsrca.org 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 8:43 PM
> Subject: Re: Desafio 2000 S
> 
> No... they scored me to "land"
> 
> Bob Pastorello
> NSRCA 199  AMA 46373
> rcaerobob at cox.net
> www.rcaerobats.net
>  
>  
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: RUDDERCABL at aol.com 
> To: discussion at nsrca.org 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 7:40 PM
> Subject: Re: Desafio 2000 S
> 
> In a message dated 1/25/2005 8:27:56 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> rcaerobob at cox.net writes:
> Well....since I've owned and flown both competitively....on a 1 to 10
> scale....10 being "can't be better" and 1 being "wish I didn't have it"....
>     The 2000 S was about minus 4....
>  
> 'Course, just my biased opinion.
> Does that mean you gave the judges points to watch you fly it ?
> 
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