Desafio 2000 S

Peter Pennisi pentagon.systems at bigpond.com
Tue Jan 25 19:38:29 AKST 2005



Dan,

I flew a friend's model with the latest changes. To say the least I wasn’t
impressed. The model is certainly capable but you have to work to damm hard
to make a good flight. The model was at its best in the dead calm. Throw in
a bit of wind which meant you had to fly the rudder you start to realise
that it was not a good model. The only way the model presents OK is if you
fly it flat out so that smaller amounts of rudder are only used.

I fly F3A in Aus. The model just doesn’t have it at that level. In the lower
classes you may get good results because you tend not to touch the rudder
too much.

Just my opinion for what it’s worth.

There are much better models out there these days. Try to get your hands on
one and see what I mean.

Peter


Peter Pennisi
Pentagon Systems QLD Pty Ltd
P.O Box 4280
Eight Mile Plains
QLD 4113
Australia
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Email: pentagon.systems at bigpond.com
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From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org] On
Behalf Of Holzworth
Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2005 1:29 PM
To: discussion at nsrca.org
Subject: Re: Desafio 2000 S

The latest improvements were lowering the horizontal stab 20 mm , changing
the rake of the vertical stab and rudder, changing the incidence of the main
wing and horizontal stab to rotate the plane to get rid of the tail low
attitude and changing the gear. So far so good.

Dan

Bob Pastorello wrote:

Dan - I'm glad yours is working;  I had one of the early ones that had the
wing improperly located, then the CG was wrong, then the stab position, then
the "size" of the stab....you get the picture.
 
In all honesty, I bought it because I thought it would be just great.  Sorta
like the current Quique Yak 54 is reported to be.  
 
I wish I'd hung in there a bit, but with all the jacking around with it, I
took the coward's way out.  I'm betting that several things got "fixed"
before you got yours, and sure wish you well with it!!!

Bob Pastorello
NSRCA 199  AMA 46373
rcaerobob at cox.net
www.rcaerobats.net
 
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Holzworth 
To: discussion at nsrca.org 
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: Desafio 2000 S

Sorry to hear that. It is pitch sensative  dialed down the throw added a
little expo everthings ok. Not sure what your problem was with ground
clearance but I hav eth bolly desafio gear and use a 17-10 still on the
original prop no nicks yet.  Have not  touhed the cg, aileron throw or
rudder throw since the original flight seems ok to me but I am a beginner we
will see how I do in the new season. 

Dan

Bob Pastorello wrote:

Actually, because of the gear location (too far aft) and too short, the 16.5
x 12 two blade Bolly bit it on the FIRST TAXI...after the air cleared from
the blue haze of my expletives, I put on a shorter APC flavor airscrew, and
it staggerred into the air, pitching and porpoising all the way.  That was
how I found out it had WAY too much elevator, and not NEARLY enough anything
else.
    So it flew...and hands off, it was WONDERFUL.  But make a rudder,
elevator, or aileron correction, and it was all over the place.
    I remember an eye-witness asking me "Have you got it?"
 
Not too long before it went south.

Bob Pastorello
NSRCA 199  AMA 46373
rcaerobob at cox.net
www.rcaerobats.net
 
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Holzworth 
To: discussion at nsrca.org 
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: Desafio 2000 S

If it were that bad how did it get off the ground.

Ed Hartley wrote:

To land early? ? ? ?

Ed
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Bob Pastorello 
To: discussion at nsrca.org 
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: Desafio 2000 S

No... they scored me to "land"

Bob Pastorello
NSRCA 199  AMA 46373
rcaerobob at cox.net
www.rcaerobats.net
 
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: RUDDERCABL at aol.com 
To: discussion at nsrca.org 
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: Desafio 2000 S

In a message dated 1/25/2005 8:27:56 PM Eastern Standard Time,
rcaerobob at cox.net writes:
Well....since I've owned and flown both competitively....on a 1 to 10
scale....10 being "can't be better" and 1 being "wish I didn't have it"....
    The 2000 S was about minus 4....
 
'Course, just my biased opinion.
Does that mean you gave the judges points to watch you fly it ?


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