Speaking of painting...Respirator tips

[Bill Glaze]

As far as Imron goes, I had read in an airplane magazine that a fellow 
had been painting his Christen Eagle in an open field with IMRON, and 
apparently felt that being in the open air was precaution enough.  He 
was pronounced DOA at the hospital, due to catalyzed paint clogging his 
lungs.  A couple of years later, I had my El Camino painted with IMRON 
by a professional spray company near where I lived.  The spray booth was 
a completely enclosed tent looking structure  (one of those crisscrossed 
by ropes) and had a positive air pressure setup.  This structure was 
outside, in the open air.  When  the man went in to spray, he was 
dressed as if he was going on a moonwalk.  Totally covered, pressure 
mask, lines, air supply, etc.  The booth had a window, and I walked over 
to see what was going on inside.
Another employee politely :suggested that I might prefer to look at the 
goings-on from inside the office, (where nothing could be seen, 
incidentally.)
He stated: "we only insist on this procedure when IMRON is being 
sprayed."  That's when I decided that I really didn't want anything to 
do with the stuff.

Bill Glaze

humptybump at comcast.net wrote:

> I guess the pro painters that live with this stuff should all be 
> dead  . I havn't seen one yet with a fresh air system , and they work 
> 8-9 hours a day in the paint booth.  hmmmmmm.
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>     This is my understanding also....that there is no canister-type
>     mask that will protect you from isocyanates (i.e., acrylic
>     urethane paints such as PPG Concept), and the only truely safe way
>     to use isocyanate-based paints is with a remote air supply.
>      
>     It is not just inhalation of vapors that is problematic, it is
>     also absorption through eyes and skin.  Isocyanate-based paints
>     are dangerous and some folks can have very bad reactions to trace
>     amounts of isocyanates.  Err on the side of caution.
>      
>     Andre'
>
>         ----- Original Message -----
>         From: MKMSG at aol.com <mailto:MKMSG at aol.com>
>         To: discussion at nsrca.org <mailto:discussion at nsrca.org>
>         Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 8:44 AM
>         Subject: Re: Speaking of painting...Respirator tips
>
>         Clay:  What model 3M mask/filter is safe (as stated by 3M) for
>         use with isocyanates?  My experience has been Dupont states
>         that a self contained or supplied fresh air system is the only
>         safe way to spray their isocyanate based paints.   
>          
>         Mike Moritko
>          
>         In a message dated 1/16/05 11:11:10 AM Central Standard Time,
>         clay2 at highstream.net writes:
>
>             Hello all,
>              
>             I sell Dupont brand out of my parts store.  A word about
>             the 3m Masks.  They are widely and almost exclusively used
>             by all the professional painters in my area.  One thing
>             you DO want to do when storing the mask in the re-sealable
>             package along with cleaning them thouroughly is to remove
>             and dispose of the canister pre-filters. If you do not,
>             the canister will deteriorate just has if a painter would
>             use them everyday.  New pre-filters are available from
>             anyone selling the masks.
>              
>             Clay Schmidt
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