Schedule design - Your homework assignment should you chose to accept it.

[Grow Pattern]

Verne,
            I was using the stall-turn as an example and I see your point. I 
am , obviously, trying to illustrate some of the intricacies of our current 
ascension model,

What I worry most about are big jumps between the classes. The current 
advanced, IMHO,  is a bit nasty. Inverted rolls at the bottom of the DI, and 
a negative snap with inverted 45 exit..etc.

It's just another thing to guard against when building schedules.

Thinking about the Stall turn. I would suggest that a 1/4 roll would make 
401 easier because they can lean the plane into the wind and can actually 
see the angle of the plane. Just food for thought.

What no apple ???  Going to sleep now...

Regards,

Eric.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Verne Koester" <verne at twmi.rr.com>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: Schedule design - Your homework assignment should you chose to 
accept it.


> Eric,
> The main maneuvers in 401 & 402 were purposely left the same. The main 
> lesson in 402 is turnaround which is more than plenty for most. The pilot 
> gets to bring everything learned in Sportsman with him. In fact, while 
> competing in 401, one could be practicing for 402 without changing much. 
> That's the beauty of the design. For me, and many pilots I've discussed 
> this with agree, the hardest things learned flying pattern with number one 
> being the hardest are as follows:
>
> 1. Flying turnaround
>
> 2. Slow Roll
>
> 3. 4 Point Roll
>
> 4. Any Roll that changes direction such as Reverse Knife Edge
>
> Of those I've talked to, some had a harder time learning the 4 point and 
> some the slow roll so 2 & 3 are interchangeable. However, the transition 
> to turnaround is undoubtedly the toughest of all which is why everything 
> else going from Sportsman to Intermediate was left the same.
>
> Verne
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Grow Pattern" <pattern4u at comcast.net>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 11:36 PM
> Subject: Re: Schedule design - Your homework assignment should you chose 
> to accept it.
>
>
>> Thank you Verne,
>>
>> Ref. Eric, "Here yaw go. I doubt something this radical would ever be 
>> accepted, but at
>> least it will serve to underline some of the concepts I was discussing 
>> and
>> defending recently on the List"
>>
>> Verne,
>>            It's actually not that radical and you get bonus points for 
>> doing three of them :-)
>>
>> Now, if you feel so inclined the, next part of the task would be to match 
>> the maneuvers. What we did/do is take each maneuver and trace how trains 
>> the pilot for the next level up. Then sometimes you tweak the maneuver.
>>
>> For example, in your work below I would match the double stall turns and 
>> do the following;
>> 401 - Double Stall Turn
>> 402 - Double Stall Turn
>> 403 - Double Stall Turn w/Half Rolls
>> 404 etc.
>>
>> What leaps out at me is the 402 could be tweaked to have 1/4 rolls and 
>> then you would have a pretty darn good ladder to climb with no rungs 
>> missing.
>>
>> 401 - Double Stall Turn
>> 402 - Double Stall Turn w/Quarter Rolls
>> 403 - Double Stall Turn w/Half Rolls
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Eric.
>>
>> P.S. Even though this is an exercise it does allow you to show how 
>> interested you might be in getting involved in our future.
>>
>>
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