AMA Regulation Changes for 2005

George Kennie geobet at gis.net
Tue Jan 11 07:51:05 AKST 2005


Keith,
This is the result of people having difficulty defining what the
words"Entry and Exit" actually mean. They seem to get confused
between the fact that maneuvers have entries and exits and the box
also has entries and exits and for some reason they have difficulty
separating the two. What this ends up doing is establishing a "call"
of the maneuver entry and exit which is at odds with the original
intent of the rulebook. Nowhere in the original ruling was there
ever a place where it was required to call the entry or exit of any
maneuver, but was clearly stated regarding the box entry and exit
and the correct timing and placement of the call, which was when
crossing the pole.
I won this argument about 3 years ago , but in the interim there
have been many watering downs of previously clearly defined
descriptors.
This is the direct result of individuals in positions of
responsibility realizing that they personally are performing
maneuvers counter to the descriptor and instead of making the
required changes to their execution practices, they make changes to
the rulebook that will accommodate their personal preferences,
resulting in a lot of the stuff we see currently going on.
G.


Keith Black wrote:

>   Also, I guess this means that you don't need to fly to the end
> of the box for a true exit of the box. Take for example in
> Intermediate where the last maneuver is two 1/2 rolls opposite.
> Guess you can now finish the second 1/2 roll just the other side
> of center, fly 15 meters, call exit then veer off for landing
> rather than fly to the box exit.  Correct? Keith
>
>      ----- Original Message -----
>      From: Lance Van Nostrand
>      To: discussion at nsrca.org
>      Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 10:28 PM
>      Subject: Re: AMA Regulation Changes for 2005
>       Don,"Exiting the box call must be done a minimum of 15
>      meters after the last maneuver is complete and judging
>      will cease at that point" Does this mean if the pilot
>      delays a bit before calling "exiting the box" that we
>      continue to judge the line after the last manuver, even
>      if it is longer than 15 meters? --Lance
>
>           ----- Original Message -----
>           From: Don Ramsey
>           To: discussion at nsrca.org
>           Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 7:13 AM
>           Subject: AMA Regulation Changes for 2005
>
>
>           There seems to be the need for some kind of
>           guidance about what is in the new 2005
>           Competition Regulations. I don’t have the
>           exact wording as it has not been published
>           (seem there is conflict about who is holding
>           them up) but here’s what I have been told and
>           am able to get from the proposals.  I hope
>           some guidance is better than none at all.
>
>           Take off and Landing:
>
>
>
>           Landing Sequence: Execute a 180 degree turn to
>           downwind (or optional 360 degree turn if
>           flight is completed on a downwind
>           maneuver). Fly a downwind leg and then turn
>           180 degrees into the wind for a final approach
>           to the runway touching down in the landing
>           zone. The landing is complete when the model
>           has either rolled 10 meters or comes to rest.
>
>           Landing zone is defined by lines perpendicular
>           across the runway and spaced 100 meters apart
>           (50 meters or about 165 feet either side of
>           center). Width is the width of the runway but
>           in no case shall exceed 30 meters.
>
>           Downgrades:
>
>           n Model does not follow landing sequence, zero
>           (0)
>
>           n Any landing gear leg retracts or collapses
>           on landing, zero (0)
>
>           n Model ends up on its back, zero (0)
>
>           n Model passes behind the judges’ line, zero
>           (0)
>
>           n Model lands outside the landing zone, zero
>           (0)
>
>           n Only two scores zero (0) of 10 may be
>           awarded.
>
>
>
>           Takeoff Sequence: Model takes off within the
>           landing zone then turns 90 degrees toward the
>           line defined by the box end poles. When
>           approximately over this line the model turns
>           either 90 degrees or 270 degrees for a
>           downwind trim pass. When approximately over
>           the downwind marker the model executes a 180
>           degree turn, reversal or other turnaround
>           maneuver of pilot’s choice.
>
>           Downgrades:
>
>           n Takeoff sequence not followed, zero (0)
>
>           n Model takes off outside the landing zone,
>           zero (0)
>
>           n Model passes behind the judges’ line, zero
>           (0)
>
>           n Only two scores a 10 or 0 may be awarded
>
>
>
>           Calling the Box: The box must be called a
>           minimum of 15 meters before the execution of
>           the first maneuver and judging begins at that
>           point. Exiting the box call must be done a
>           minimum of 15 meters after the last maneuver
>           is complete and judging will cease at that
>           point.
>
>
>
>           Retracts: Sportsman is no longer restricted to
>           fixed gear.
>
>
>
>           Straight and Level Flight Defined: The
>           following has been added to the AMA Judges’
>           Guide under B. Principles a. Precision
>           paragraph 2 last sentence after “Therefore,
>           the absence of a well defined straight and
>           level exit should also result in
>           downgrading.” “In all cases, straight and
>           level flight means flight parallel to the
>           flight line, at a constant altitude and with
>           wings level.”
>
>
>
>           Spins:
>
>           The following will be added to the AMA Judges
>           Guide under “Spins” on page 78.
>
>
>
>           6. The pilot who can best combine
>           precision/geometry of the spin (shape of the
>           maneuver/correct number of degrees of
>           rotation) plus wind correction to adjust the
>           track should receive the higher score.
>
>
>
>           Also, on page 84 under “Spins, any number of
>           rotations, Upright or Inverted” delete the
>           subparagraph beginning with “Crabbing the
>           model”
>
>
>
>           Editorial comment: It is my opinion, this is
>           going to take a clarification from the Judging
>           Committee because of the following:
>
>           n All lines in AMA are required to be wind
>           corrected or there is a downgrade.
>
>           n Wings must be level approaching the stall or
>           there is a downgrade.
>
>           n This new rule implies that the spin is
>           downgraded if the required number of rotations
>           are not done.
>
>           n It is impossible to fly a model (or any
>           aircraft) in a crosswind without wind
>           correction and maintain a track parallel with
>           the flightline. So, to make the required
>           number of degrees of rotation the model must
>           be on a heading parallel with the flightline
>           and therefore drifting (that physics)
>
>
>
>           None of this paragraph is in the regulations
>           but under "Logic behind proposal" is the
>           statement "The best pilots can hide slip and
>           maintain track and attitude in all but the
>           worst conditions." and "For example, in a
>           crosswind, pilot A does the best job of
>           slipping to maintain track while at the same
>           time maintaining a heading/attitude which
>           closely parallels the runway." and "Good
>           pilots are observed at every contest
>           maintaining track AND heading into spin
>           entry.  The current rule does not allow a
>           judge to give better marks to a pilot who
>           maintains track and heading from a pilot who
>           cannot."
>

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