AMA MASTER'S unknown?

Ron Van Putte vanputte at cox.net
Thu Jan 6 15:32:46 AKST 2005


On Jan 6, 2005, at 5:43 PM, Jim Ivey wrote:

>
>> Hooray for Bob.My sentiments also.
>
> Jim Ivey

I was hoping I wasn't the only one.  No matter that I will never make 
the finals, I don't like the idea of unknowns in the finals.  It should 
be left to the next NSRCA board to take action.

Ron Van Putte

>> From: "Bob Pastorello" <rcaerobob at cox.net>
>> Date: 2005/01/06 Thu PM 06:39:42 EST
>> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>> Subject: Re: AMA MASTER'S unknown?
>>
>> I guess since I never take a position on anything, I should probably 
>> do so on this -- so -- here 'tis.
>>
>> 1.  This is a genuine yes/no POLL question of the MASTERS pilots 
>> only....and needs to be carefully administered, IF the Board is 
>> interested in opening this one.
>> 2.  If the POLL has at least 2/3 majority, then the next question 
>> should be designed to find out how crazy we (Masters) pilots are 
>> about having our scores judged by JUDGES WHO HAVE NEVER SEEN THE 
>> SEQUENCE  and
>> 3.  How crazy we are about the 
>> totally-impossible-to-fairly-administer influence of the "team".  At 
>> this level of competitions (you guys are talking about the NATS 
>> FINALS, for G---s sake!!!) I would be hard pressed to say it will be 
>> "fair" to have the outcome determined by who had the best caller (or 
>> the most effective team).  Not everyone can do that...  and finally 
>> ....
>> 4.  MASTERS is supposed to be the Top AMA class....as such, 
>> philosophically, I think it should be the best - the VERY best - of 
>> precision, smoothness, and gracefulness....
>>
>> AND implementing an Unknown turns all that back into "IMPRESSION" 
>> judging....
>>
>> I'm not in favor of it;  won't be; won't try to persuade others to 
>> be; and believe wholeheartedly that if a pilot is strongly committed 
>> to flying Unknowns that he go play IMAC.  Then fly "Pattern" for 
>> precision, practiced, smooth and skillfully-executed "routines".
>>
>> Bob Pastorello
>> NSRCA 199  AMA 46373
>> rcaerobob at cox.net
>> www.rcaerobats.net
>>
>>
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: Ed Deaver
>>   To: discussion at nsrca.org
>>   Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 3:54 PM
>>   Subject: Re: AMA MASTER'S unknown?
>>
>>
>>   Flying an Unknown truely does make it a 2 person flight.  I would 
>> still welcome the opportunity as the challange and thrill(flying well 
>> or goofing up and trying to collect yourself to fly the next 
>> manuever) is really great.
>>
>>   I don't know if it really identifies the callers ability, as much 
>> as the teams ability.  Another thought depends on how much time is 
>> allowed to prepare also.
>>
>>   ed
>>
>>   rcaerobob at cox.net wrote:
>>     Before I'd answer whether I wanted one or not, I'd like to have 
>> an understanding of what, specifically, the unknown in Masters would 
>> "reveal". If pattern is about precision piloting that could be a 
>> different thing than an ability to have a good caller....
>>
>>     Just my ignorant opinion.
>>
>>     Bob P.
>>>
>>> From: "Grow Pattern"
>>> Date: 2005/01/06 Thu AM 11:25:48 EST
>>> To: ,
>>>
>>> Subject: AMA MASTER'S unknown?
>>>
>>> How does this list feel about a Masters Nat's final that was 
>>> different to
>>> the regular schedule. OR, even an unknown in the final to make it 
>>> more than
>>> just three more of the same flown in the heats.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Eric.
>>
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