PL Products

Thu Jan 6 09:27:28 AKST 2005

Or Groucho Marx:

"I like my tuned pipe, but I ....."

Never mind! :-)

Bob R.

Larry Caldwell <4larryc at bscn.com> wrote:
Sounds like W.C. Fields tok up pattern! Oops, showing my age...

Larry Caldwell
Brookland, Arkansas

Keith Hoard wrote:

> What a great name for a pattern plane. . . . Mike Hester, are you still 
> looking for a name for your new design??
> 
> 
> 
> I can see it now: â€œHey Keith, are you going to bring your CONCUBINE to 
> the contest this weekend??â€. . . . (hehehehe)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Keith L. Hoard
> 
> Cordova, TN
> 
> khoard at midsouth.rr.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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> 
> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org] 
> On Behalf Of Del Rykert
> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 8:56 AM
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Subject: Re: PL Products
> 
> 
> 
> Derek..
> 
> Thanks for sharing the direct material CONCUBINE and all. Hope you 
> do get your Partner fuselage but I'm not taking any bets on it.
> 
> 
> 
> del
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> 
> From: Derek Koopowitz 
> 
> To: discussion at nsrca.org 
> 
> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 12:39 AM
> 
> Subject: RE: PL Products
> 
> 
> 
> Well, the biggest question in my mind... is will he honor replacing
> the damaged Partner fuselage that arrived at my doorstep in June of
> last year? After promising to replace it in August - I'm still
> waiting for it.
> 
> 
> 
> BTW, I've kept this out of this forum but he blamed ME for it
> arriving damaged at my doorstep. Hmmm...
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
> 
> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Russell Honea
> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 9:35 PM
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Subject: Re: PL Products
> 
> Guys,
> 
> 
> 
> Here is an e-mail reply that Patrick sent to me today in reply to a
> question I posed to him about the closing of PL.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hello Mr Russell Honea
> 
> 
> 
> Sadden of this problem yes the company(society) pl prod and close
> but we are going to honor all the commands(orders) gift(donation) pl
> prod received a deposit by a buyer(rescuer) and I would be as
> engineering manager to reassure your customers we are going soon to
> be able to take your order
> Thank you to still take one can of patience sums us in plain
> reorganization to worry you not we are going soon to be able to
> answer has your demand you can count on us for 2005 with a great
> novelty which is going to upset world you can inform about it your forum
> Has very soon
> 
> 
> 
> Patrick Lemonnier
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> 
> From: Lance Van Nostrand 
> 
> To: discussion at nsrca.org 
> 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 10:41 PM
> 
> Subject: Re: PL Products
> 
> 
> 
> Patrick is some interesting character. Thought I was re-reading
> Les Miserables for a minute there.
> 
> --Lance
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> 
> From: Derek Koopowitz 
> 
> To: discussion at nsrca.org 
> 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 10:18 PM
> 
> Subject: RE: PL Products
> 
> 
> 
> Yes - this is true. I got this message off a French
> discussion forum... I've run it through a translator so
> don't laugh too hard:
> 
> 
> 
> DEVELOPED FOR the RAGOTEURS IN ANY KIND "makes of them the
> four or five slobbery over-devouts of the forum" because the
> other members are unaware of them. With their place I will
> have shame to have had such remarks to know that it is only
> about anonymous letter since the latter not courage to
> employ their own name and sign under pseudo. But I make a
> point of announcing to them all the same that in the event
> of deposit of complaint for slandering, the qualified
> services would have the possibility of identifying them
> without difficulty. For a few weeks, I have followed time to
> other the forums model makers which comment on the event and
> I think that it is time for me to intervene and to give the
> things to the point. First of all PL PROD was not put in
> bankruptcy but it is of my own initiative that I filed for
> bankruptcy, which in France is an act of management and not
> a personal bankruptcy. Much among you will understand that
> it is humanly difficult to announce this kind of decision by
> Internet, namely that moreover it was impossible to to me to
> do it day when liquidation was marked with the court since
> the discontinuance of business was imminent whereas I hoped
> to have an agreement of the judge to be able to finish my
> deliveries in the course of customers whose installment had
> been boxed. The reasons of my decision are not like it was
> known as in the forum a lack of order quite to the contrary.
> But with my problems of health which last since more than
> one year, I have no possibility to work like before and I
> had to engage of the personnel to face my many orders.
> Unfortunately, the same problems which were the cause of the
> legal rectification in 2000, again arose; employees not
> qualified to form, wages and exuberant social contributions
> compared to work provided, various prud' man for certain
> employees who believed any knowledge... and obviously in
> France the employer is always wrong, all this generates
> enormous court expenses. Like he was said by a member of the
> forum, it is true that a great number of SME or SME are only
> delocalized abroad and to be to relieve of the social
> contributions which are much too heavy in France. Moreover
> why not consider such a solution for the future!!!!! I knew
> well that the vultures would be with the mounting and I
> announce to crafty one who think, I quote them: "to be made
> gold testicles" and which in their dream reserve parts, or
> "foreigners with their full pocket" or those still which
> think that the company is not worth anything, and well for
> some it has a very great value and for all those which would
> like to come to make deals, they will may find it beneficial
> to have very solid finances because they will have vis-a-vis
> them somebody which has them to him and moreover one hard
> motivation like a "rock". Personally my only wish currently
> is to make return a maximum of money at the time of the sale
> so that the syndic can deaden the debts to the maximum. As
> opposed to what Mr. PALERMO announced following his visit in
> my residence where is located the company, the buildings are
> not emptied, all stock and the machines remained in place as
> at the day of the pronunciation of liquidation. And will
> remain it under my personal guard without the syndic did not
> consider it useful to put at it sealed or to remove the
> material. What shows a whole confidence on behalf of the
> syndic towards me. I also expected to see some unloading
> some ones, to see whether there were nothing with grappiller
> and indeed I saw some coming some, of which Mr. PALERMO and
> his son. I quote them bus me I do not hide like them behind
> pseudo on the forums to hold to with it of the defamatory
> and erroneous remarks. Such as: To say that my wife
> supposedly said to him that it refused to return her cheque
> to him. In connection with this given cheque on November 6
> and to box that on December 1, I consider that there was not
> of order since it is the payment of the installment which
> confirms the latter. However not being able to be taken into
> account since the company did not exist any more at the date
> of November 25 this one became by this null and void fact.
> This cheque will be sent dice tomorrow by the post office in
> recommended A.R with a letter which will accompany it I join
> copy to you. Frankly, what I will have make of a cheque of
> 330 â‚¬ to the order of PL PROD!!!! I am not a swindler, far
> from there!!! I also advise to him to consult the statutes
> of the company, it will note that my concubine "Simone" does
> not have any share nor bond in company PL PROD. It affirms
> to be badly received, those which know us well, know our
> direction of the reception. However well on not having let
> it return in the buildings, in order to appease his
> curiosity and I think after having read his remarks on this
> forum, I suspect it of having wanted to be useful itself in
> stock since it felt swindled whereas its cheque of
> installment was never cashed and that it will be it never. I
> would like just to announce to the son of Mr. Palermo that
> if he wrote under the dictation of his father, he should
> learn how to judge by itself of the reality of the facts and
> that if he wrote his own initiative which he is still quite
> young person and inexperienced to hold such remarks because
> nobody knows what the future can hold to him instead of
> unnecessarily wasting its time in the forums that he should
> take of the French courses. I also prevent, all those which
> are to adapt the photographs of Clara MORGANE on my site PL
> PROD without authorization, that these photographs are the
> property of Patrick LEMONNIER personally, that they cost me
> 8000 â‚¬ for the day of installation with authorization of
> exclusive diffusion on stores where they appeared and on my
> site. However with all these, I join the article of the
> penal code to you which relates to them: ATTACK A LIFE
> PRIVEE BY RECORDING AND DIFFUSION OF The IMAGE Of A PERSON
> WITHOUT HER ASSENT ARTICLE 226-1 AND 226-2 OF CODE PENAL. I
> highly invite them to withdraw these photographs of their
> site which I already recorded as proof if I do not have
> excuses into public on this forum like that was made to
> dirty me. If not Clara MORGANE will be made a pleasure of
> requiring significant damages of them. Act quickly because I
> am not patient kind in this field. In addition my personal
> businesses look at me and I never neither was windy myself
> about it nor hidden and these last do not have absolutely
> anything to see with the company PL PROD which never did not
> produce or diffused a film in this field. It is not a
> "SCOOP" to speak about it! That each one does its housework
> in front of its door before dealing with that of the
> neighbor. PL PROD was always more one passion that a
> profitability (I am not enrichiesur the account of the
> company quite to the contrary, I invested myself as much
> physically than financially) I think of having done what is
> necessary to advance the world of the model amongst other
> things reduces the FÃ and the F3M including the electric
> innovation in FÃ. It should be known that to make model
> reduced for the high level competition is a very delicate
> trade, very difficult and fragile especially if one wants to
> make "HAUTE COUTURE". My great satisfaction currently is of
> knowing that a great number of my models are copied
> throughout the whole World and by many international
> companies. Whereas a few years ago I took that for an
> affront, now I am proud. With my opinion the progression
> will be much slower if there are no more my models to copy.
> Will know that Patrick LEMONNIER did not say his last word,
> that one should not sell the skin of the bear before having
> it to kill and I am still quite alive and the head full with
> ideas for the future. I thank the regulator for this forum
> which knew after a fashion to make reign the order about the
> insults towards Clara MORGANE and I think that that should
> not have been easy. I thank, also, those which took my
> defense on this forum as those which remained quiet
> vis-a-vis these commÃ©rages thus showing the contempt that
> they bring vis-a-vis such remarks and I know that you are
> numerous. I think of having been honest and courteous and I
> find damage to be obliged to justify itself on a forum in
> this way there and I hope that in the future those which
> will have some things to say to me or to wonder will do it
> directly on my personal e-mail patricklemonnier at wanadoo.fr I
> make all reserves on the action pursuant which I will take
> to these slanderings. I clearly hope to have been. Patrick
> LEMONNIER
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Verne Koester
> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 8:13 PM
> To: NSRCA
> Subject: PL Products
> 
> I just heard a rumour that PL Products has gone out of
> business. Anybody heard anything?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> 
> Verne Koester
> 

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