PL Products

[Bill Glaze]

Concubine? 

Derek Koopowitz wrote:

> But think of the "tail" he got...
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> err.... did I say that out loud?
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> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org 
> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Doug Cronkhite
> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 9:02 PM
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Subject: RE: PL Products
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> If he spent 8000 euro on those pictures than him going out of business 
> was only a matter of time. Not exactly smart business.
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> -Doug
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> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org 
> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Koenig, Tom
> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 8:48 PM
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Subject: RE: PL Products
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> I guess it was inevitable...too bad in some way.
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> Right now......Boy am I glad I can design and build.  In 'Lo 
> tech' good 'ol balsa and foam <G>
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> Tom
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org 
> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Lance Van Nostrand
> Sent: Thursday, 6 January 2005 3:41 PM
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Subject: Re: PL Products
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> Patrick is some interesting character.  Thought I was re-reading Les 
> Miserables for a minute there.
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> --Lance
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>     ----- Original Message -----
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>     From: Derek Koopowitz <mailto:derekkoopowitz at earthlink.net>
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>     To: discussion at nsrca.org <mailto:discussion at nsrca.org>
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>     Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 10:18 PM
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>     Subject: RE: PL Products
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>     Yes - this is true.  I got this message off a French discussion
>     forum... I've run it through a translator so don't laugh too hard:
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>     DEVELOPED FOR the RAGOTEURS IN ANY KIND "makes of them the four or
>     five slobbery over-devouts of the forum" because the other members
>     are unaware of them. With their place I will have shame to have
>     had such remarks to know that it is only about anonymous letter
>     since the latter not courage to employ their own name and sign
>     under pseudo. But I make a point of announcing to them all the
>     same that in the event of deposit of complaint for slandering, the
>     qualified services would have the possibility of identifying them
>     without difficulty. For a few weeks, I have followed time to other
>     the forums model makers which comment on the event and I think
>     that it is time for me to intervene and to give the things to the
>     point. First of all PL PROD was not put in bankruptcy but it is of
>     my own initiative that I filed for bankruptcy, which in France is
>     an act of management and not a personal bankruptcy. Much among you
>     will understand that it is humanly difficult to announce this kind
>     of decision by Internet, namely that moreover it was impossible to
>     to me to do it day when liquidation was marked with the court
>     since the discontinuance of business was imminent whereas I hoped
>     to have an agreement of the judge to be able to finish my
>     deliveries in the course of customers whose installment had been
>     boxed. The reasons of my decision are not like it was known as in
>     the forum a lack of order quite to the contrary. But with my
>     problems of health which last since more than one year, I have no
>     possibility to work like before and I had to engage of the
>     personnel to face my many orders. Unfortunately, the same problems
>     which were the cause of the legal rectification in 2000, again
>     arose; employees not qualified to form, wages and exuberant social
>     contributions compared to work provided, various prud' man for
>     certain employees who believed any knowledge... and obviously in
>     France the employer is always wrong, all this generates enormous
>     court expenses. Like he was said by a member of the forum, it is
>     true that a great number of SME or SME are only delocalized abroad
>     and to be to relieve of the social contributions which are much
>     too heavy in France. Moreover why not consider such a solution for
>     the future!!!!! I knew well that the vultures would be with the
>     mounting and I announce to crafty one who think, I quote them: "to
>     be made gold testicles" and which in their dream reserve parts, or
>     "foreigners with their full pocket" or those still which think
>     that the company is not worth anything, and well for some it has a
>     very great value and for all those which would like to come to
>     make deals, they will may find it beneficial to have very solid
>     finances because they will have vis-a-vis them somebody which has
>     them to him and moreover one hard motivation like a "rock".
>     Personally my only wish currently is to make return a maximum of
>     money at the time of the sale so that the syndic can deaden the
>     debts to the maximum. As opposed to what Mr. PALERMO announced
>     following his visit in my residence where is located the company,
>     the buildings are not emptied, all stock and the machines remained
>     in place as at the day of the pronunciation of liquidation. And
>     will remain it under my personal guard without the syndic did not
>     consider it useful to put at it sealed or to remove the material.
>     What shows a whole confidence on behalf of the syndic towards me.
>     I also expected to see some unloading some ones, to see whether
>     there were nothing with grappiller and indeed I saw some coming
>     some, of which Mr. PALERMO and his son. I quote them bus me I do
>     not hide like them behind pseudo on the forums to hold to with it
>     of the defamatory and erroneous remarks. Such as: To say that my
>     wife supposedly said to him that it refused to return her cheque
>     to him. In connection with this given cheque on November 6 and to
>     box that on December 1, I consider that there was not of order
>     since it is the payment of the installment which confirms the
>     latter. However not being able to be taken into account since the
>     company did not exist any more at the date of November 25 this one
>     became by this null and void fact. This cheque will be sent dice
>     tomorrow by the post office in recommended A.R with a letter which
>     will accompany it I join copy to you. Frankly, what I will have
>     make of a cheque of 330 € to the order of PL PROD!!!! I am not a
>     swindler, far from there!!! I also advise to him to consult the
>     statutes of the company, it will note that my concubine "Simone"
>     does not have any share nor bond in company PL PROD. It affirms to
>     be badly received, those which know us well, know our direction of
>     the reception. However well on not having let it return in the
>     buildings, in order to appease his curiosity and I think after
>     having read his remarks on this forum, I suspect it of having
>     wanted to be useful itself in stock since it felt swindled whereas
>     its cheque of installment was never cashed and that it will be it
>     never. I would like just to announce to the son of Mr. Palermo
>     that if he wrote under the dictation of his father, he should
>     learn how to judge by itself of the reality of the facts and that
>     if he wrote his own initiative which he is still quite young
>     person and inexperienced to hold such remarks because nobody knows
>     what the future can hold to him instead of unnecessarily wasting
>     its time in the forums that he should take of the French courses.
>     I also prevent, all those which are to adapt the photographs of
>     Clara MORGANE on my site PL PROD without authorization, that these
>     photographs are the property of Patrick LEMONNIER personally, that
>     they cost me 8000 € for the day of installation with authorization
>     of exclusive diffusion on stores where they appeared and on my
>     site. However with all these, I join the article of the penal code
>     to you which relates to them: ATTACK A LIFE PRIVEE BY RECORDING
>     AND DIFFUSION OF The IMAGE Of A PERSON WITHOUT HER ASSENT ARTICLE
>     226-1 AND 226-2 OF CODE PENAL. I highly invite them to withdraw
>     these photographs of their site which I already recorded as proof
>     if I do not have excuses into public on this forum like that was
>     made to dirty me. If not Clara MORGANE will be made a pleasure of
>     requiring significant damages of them. Act quickly because I am
>     not patient kind in this field. In addition my personal businesses
>     look at me and I never neither was windy myself about it nor
>     hidden and these last do not have absolutely anything to see with
>     the company PL PROD which never did not produce or diffused a film
>     in this field. It is not a "SCOOP" to speak about it! That each
>     one does its housework in front of its door before dealing with
>     that of the neighbor. PL PROD was always more one passion that a
>     profitability (I am not enrichiesur the account of the company
>     quite to the contrary, I invested myself as much physically than
>     financially) I think of having done what is necessary to advance
>     the world of the model amongst other things reduces the FÁ and the
>     F3M including the electric innovation in FÁ. It should be known
>     that to make model reduced for the high level competition is a
>     very delicate trade, very difficult and fragile especially if one
>     wants to make "HAUTE COUTURE". My great satisfaction currently is
>     of knowing that a great number of my models are copied throughout
>     the whole World and by many international companies. Whereas a few
>     years ago I took that for an affront, now I am proud. With my
>     opinion the progression will be much slower if there are no more
>     my models to copy. Will know that Patrick LEMONNIER did not say
>     his last word, that one should not sell the skin of the bear
>     before having it to kill and I am still quite alive and the head
>     full with ideas for the future. I thank the regulator for this
>     forum which knew after a fashion to make reign the order about the
>     insults towards Clara MORGANE and I think that that should not
>     have been easy. I thank, also, those which took my defense on this
>     forum as those which remained quiet vis-a-vis these commérages
>     thus showing the contempt that they bring vis-a-vis such remarks
>     and I know that you are numerous. I think of having been honest
>     and courteous and I find damage to be obliged to justify itself on
>     a forum in this way there and I hope that in the future those
>     which will have some things to say to me or to wonder will do it
>     directly on my personal e-mail patricklemonnier at wanadoo.fr I make
>     all reserves on the action pursuant which I will take to these
>     slanderings. I clearly hope to have been. Patrick LEMONNIER
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>     From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
>     [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Verne Koester
>     Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 8:13 PM
>     To: NSRCA
>     Subject: PL Products
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>     I just heard a rumour that PL Products has gone out of business.
>     Anybody heard anything?
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>     Thanks,
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>     Verne Koester
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