Sequence Poll Results

[Bill Glaze]

I dunno, Jason; I know some of them, and they might just decide to beat 
you up, period!<VBG>  Bill Glaze

Jason wrote:

> I did make the jump...but I got my tail handed to me for a few years 
> before settling down and moving up....Maybe after this year I'll fly 
> Advanced again after the Nats and get my Nats trophy from Advanced I 
> just missed; providing some of these Advanced pilots don't beat me up 
> first (flying).
>  
> Jason
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
>     [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Rcmaster199 at aol.com
>     Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 8:11 PM
>     To: discussion at nsrca.org
>     Subject: Fwd: Sequence Poll Results
>
>     In a message dated 1/3/2005 10:10:12 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>     Rcmaster199 writes:
>
>         It seems to me that Earl is right. It's a moot point
>          
>         In the US (and many other countries) we are lucky to have
>         pattern competition in ever increasing levels of difficulty.
>         When a competitor has reached some level of profficiency and
>         feels compelled to compete for the World stage, he or she only
>         needs to do it. We have no other requiremnts imposed. The
>         question in my mind is, are prep levels really necessary? If
>         one is driven enough and focused enough, No!
>          
>         There are countries out there that do not have such
>         progression in skill requirements. Often it's only a handful
>         of pilots available and it's either F3A or nothing. Well, just
>         fun flying I suppose. Point is they don't need anything
>         special to compete in F3A--just desire. They  do it to the
>         best of their ability. And they have a bunch of fun doing it.
>          
>         It occasionally is that way here also and I would bet that
>         those that want to compete at the F3A level will, regardless
>         of earlier prep. It helps, obviously. But what really helps is
>         the exposure to competition. And in that regard, AMA classes
>         401-404 serve the function of prep for F3A just fine. But each
>         class stands on its own. 
>          
>         Those that want to go to F3A after any of these classes, are
>         free to do so. If memory serves, Jason Shulman moved to F3A
>         comp after kicking everybody's butt in ADVANCED. No Expert,
>         Expert TA or Masters.
>          
>         Is F3A the TOP class, or "Destination" class or whatever you
>         want to call it? Does it really matter?
>          
>         MattK
>
>             Earl Haury wrote:
>
>>                I think this "top class" issue is of little value and,
>>             at best, semantics. One could argue that, as AMA pattern
>>             class 404 is Masters and AMA pattern 406 is F3A, F3A is
>>             at the top of AMA progression. Mark's point that we have
>>             as much influence in F3A as any other country is not only
>>             valid - many of the F3A "innovations" have come from USA
>>             reps to the FAI CIAM F3A Subcommittee. I also assure you
>>             that a sequence provided by "us" will not only receive as
>>             much consideration as any other, but be quite
>>             welcome. Our pattern community worldwide is small, why on
>>             earth would we want to be only a subset? BTW - does
>>             anyone have a feel for the total number of pattern
>>             competitors worldwide, I suspect that the US may be in
>>             the minority. Sure, we should and do have preparatory
>>             classes. These may become resident classes for folks
>>             prevented from moving forward by any number of  limiting
>>             factors, but that's a fact of life - not reason to tailor
>>             these classes to that end. One of the strongest
>>             attractions for model aviation is diversity. Likewise,
>>             excess diversity is a weakness of model aviation. We too
>>             quickly "invent" new disciplines to accommodate each and
>>             every interest with the effect of diluting our core
>>             groups. If one considers most sports, many folks
>>             participate at playground, high school, college, and pro
>>             levels with fewer at each level as the requirements take
>>             a toll. But the "top" level is clearly recognized and
>>             emulated, there may be concessions to detail, difficulty,
>>             equipment at the early levels - but the top level clearly
>>             is the goal. I find it sad that some consider that the
>>             NSRCA should ignore F3A, rather the NSRCA should drive
>>             the US interests in F3A. The NSRCA was founded by the top
>>             F3A competitors of the time and there was no expectation
>>             that it was exclusive of F3A, unfortunately they didn't
>>             recognize the need to spell that out in the charter.
>>             Pattern is our game, anything that interests folks in
>>             pattern competition is very good,  discussion of pattern
>>             details is good, F3A is the epitome of our game, but I
>>             find it hard to criticize anything related to the
>>             enjoyment of pattern. Earl ----- Original Message -----
>>
>>                 From: Bob Pastorello <mailto:rcaerobob at cox.net>
>>                 To: discussion at nsrca.org <mailto:discussion at nsrca.org>
>>                 Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 11:00 AM
>>                 Subject: Re: Sequence Poll Results
>>
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