Weight rules discussion ( my opinion)

Rcmaster199 at aol.com Rcmaster199 at aol.com
Thu Feb 24 19:31:49 AKST 2005


 
Well, Ocala is right around the corner, so why not fly the pig in the  
sunshine? Then you'll know fer shure. It always blows in Ocala.
 
Better yet, fly the same plane at its standard weight and then increase its  
weight by 15% and fly another round heavy> I'll hold Ernie back so he won't  
weigh you (ahem, I meant your plane)
 
Matt
 
In a message dated 2/24/2005 11:19:17 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
jivey61 at bellsouth.net writes:

Matt
The 12.5 lb dead pig in the sunshine will get better scores  because it 
doesn't appear antsy.
Like Dave L says the bigger  the  plane the better. I agree here.I also agree 
if you keep the same wing area and  raise the weight the wing loading 
changes.You can keep the same 2meter limits  with more wing area and have the bigger 
plane Dave talks about. None of these  suppositions were in the original 
thread.>
If Bob has 2 of the same type  planes, same wing area one 9.5 lbs and the 
other 12.5 lbs I still say the 12.5  would have the advantage of being smoother 
in the wind(blows at every  contest).Does this make it illegal? Only if the CD 
weighs you.

Jim Ivey  
> From: Rcmaster199 at aol.com
> Date: 2005/02/24 Thu PM 11:04:15  EST
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Subject: Re: Weight rules  discussion ( my opinion)
> 
>  
> Jimmy, I've read Don  Lowe's columns for years and his rationale (one that 
I  
> agree  with) is that a light plane bounces more but damps quicker than the 
>  heavy  plane. 
>  
> I don't doubt that increasing the  DR wing loading by 15% as you  did in 
your 
> experiment, would  likely result in better flying fro that plane. It  would 
be 
> more  interesting to know what the wing loading was and is before and  
after  
> the change.
>  
> Now translate that to a 2 meter  job and see what happens. Try increasing  
the 
> weight of your  standard pattern model by 15% and see what it does. How 
does  
>  the wing loading compare to your DR b4 and after the changes? 
>   
> I'd be interested in that experimental result
>  
>  Matt
>  
> In a message dated 2/24/2005 10:44:50 PM Eastern  Standard Time,  
> jivey61 at bellsouth.net writes:
> 
>  Bob
> I  assume you want to disregard the 11 lb limit. You will  have advantage 
over 
> the  9.5 lb plane. The 12.5 lb plane will be  much more stable in the wind 
> than the  9.5 lb plane. The engines  of today will handle the heavier plane 
just 
> as well  as the 9.5  lb plane.   The difference is you're more stable 
because   
> of your weight. Now if you throw in the weight limit 11 lbs that  makes you 
not  
> legal.
> I have a 6.25lb Daddy Rabbit that  I had to add 1 lb lead to the CG  to 
calm 
> the plane down so I  could fly it smoothly . 
> Same thing.   
> Don't know  if this is a rational reason to be legal or not,but there is an 
 
>  advantage to a heavier plane.
> 
> Jim Ivey
> > 
>  > From: "Bob  Pastorello" <rcaerobob at cox.net>
> > Date:  2005/02/24 Thu PM 10:19:36  EST
> > To:  <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > Subject: Re: Weight rules   discussion ( my opinion)
> > 
> > Let's say I decide, for my  own  reasons, that I want to fly a 12.5lb 
(dry) 
> 2M pattern  airplane against 9.5 lb  (dry) 2M pattern airplanes in Masters 
>  class.
> > 
> > Somebody,  anybody, give me a rational  reason why I should NOT be 
"legal" 
> to fly at a  sanctioned  event?
> > 
> > Bob Pastorello


 
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