FAI Weight Thread

[Ken Thompson III]

Jim,
There's your weight control, somebody builds too heavy then I'm going to 
beat them at the contest.  They won't ever live that one down!

Ken
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Ivey" <jivey61 at bellsouth.net>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 6:50 PM
Subject: Re: RE: FAI Weight Thread


> Ken
> By necessity the planes will have to get bigger or they will fly like Eric 
> says(jello on a plate). I liked that one.
>
> Jim Ivey
>>
>> From: "Ken Thompson III" <mrandmrst at comcast.net>
>> Date: 2005/02/23 Wed PM 06:14:37 EST
>> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>> Subject: Re: RE: FAI Weight Thread
>>
>> Jim,
>> The size wouldn't change, just the weight limit.  You can only go so 
>> heavy
>> with a 2x2 airframe before the wing loading gets so high the plane flies
>> like crap.  That will be the controlling factor, wing load.
>>
>> Ken
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Jim Ivey" <jivey61 at bellsouth.net>
>> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 5:54 PM
>> Subject: Re: RE: FAI Weight Thread
>>
>>
>> > Guys
>> > So you raise it to 5.5 or even 12 lbs,where will it end. In 2 years
>> > someone will want 14 lbs so they can run their gas engine,then we can 
>> > go
>> > unlimited and be like IMAC where the sky is the limit with weight. Then 
>> > we
>> > move the box out another 50 yards and make it unlimited width to
>> > accomodate the bigger planes.
>> > I think leave well enough alone.
>> >
>> > Jim Ivey
>> >>
>> >> From: "Dean Pappas" <d.pappas at kodeos.com>
>> >> Date: 2005/02/23 Wed PM 05:12:55 EST
>> >> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>> >> Subject: RE: FAI Weight Thread
>> >>
>> >> Hi Ed,
>> >> OK, so you agree.  5.5 Kg should be fine, no?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Dean Pappas
>> >> Sr. Design Engineer
>> >> Kodeos Communications
>> >> 111 Corporate Blvd.
>> >> South Plainfield, N.J. 07080
>> >> (908) 222-7817 phone
>> >> (908) 222-2392 fax
>> >> d.pappas at kodeos.com
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
>> >> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Ed Miller
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 4:39 PM
>> >> To: discussion at nsrca.org
>> >> Subject: Re: FAI Weight Thread
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 5Kg including fuel for glow planes will eliminate 2 of the 3 pattern
>> >> ships now I have, including my newest 2M ship as I doubt I can fly the
>> >> Master's schedule on 7 ounces of fuel. Should it happen I guess I'll 
>> >> just
>> >> sport fly my planes and another NSRCA member and pattern flyer will be
>> >> lost. I suspect over 90% of existing glow ships would now be 
>> >> technically
>> >> illegal. If we keep screwing with rules that outdate or make planes
>> >> overnight illegal, pattern will be a very, very small crowd in a very
>> >> short time. I certainly don't care for the thought that my substantial 
>> >> $$
>> >> and time investment could be wiped out by a rule that accomplishes 
>> >> what
>> >> ???
>> >> Ed M.
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> From: Dean  <mailto:d.pappas at kodeos.com> Pappas
>> >> To: discussion at nsrca.org
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 9:27 AM
>> >> Subject: RE: FAI Weight Thread
>> >>
>> >> Hi Bob,
>> >> Generally, the desireability of a quieter event is recognized. E-power
>> >> suffers from a definition problem: we weigh without fuel, but with
>> >> batteries. A change to "ready for takeoff" will even the playing field
>> >> ... maybe even tilt it E-ward. Do you kake the present day ships pass 
>> >> a 5
>> >> Kg standard with fuel, or do you give everyone an additonal 1/2 Kg for
>> >> fuel and or battery.
>> >>
>> >> While my druthers would be to make everyone meet 5Kg wet/batteried, I
>> >> suspect that there would be resistance to making existing legal 
>> >> airplanes
>> >> suddenly illegal. That's where 5.5 Kg might come from. A total removal 
>> >> of
>> >> the weight limit is exceedingly unlikely. Has anyone spoken to Chris
>> >> Lakin or Ron Chidgey, lately?
>> >>
>> >> Regards to All,
>> >>         Dean
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Dean Pappas
>> >> Sr. Design Engineer
>> >> Kodeos Communications
>> >> 111 Corporate Blvd.
>> >> South Plainfield, N.J. 07080
>> >> (908) 222-7817 phone
>> >> (908) 222-2392 fax
>> >> d.pappas at kodeos.com
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
>> >> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Bob Pastorello
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 9:07 PM
>> >> To: NSRCA
>> >> Subject: FAI Weight Thread
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Over on RCU - apparently some Europeans are under the impression that 
>> >> the
>> >> FAI will consider a proposal to either remove the weight limit, or
>> >> significantly raise it.
>> >>
>> >> Anybody know what's up with that?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Bob Pastorello
>> >> NSRCA 199  AMA 46373
>> >> rcaerobob at cox.net
>> >> www.rcaerobats.net
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
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