FAI Weight Thread

tony at radiosouthrc.com tony at radiosouthrc.com
Wed Feb 23 15:02:39 AKST 2005


How about Bipes, Triplanes and such?  ....


Tony Stillman
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken Thompson III" <mrandmrst at comcast.net>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: RE: FAI Weight Thread


> Jim,
> The size wouldn't change, just the weight limit.  You can only go so heavy 
> with a 2x2 airframe before the wing loading gets so high the plane flies 
> like crap.  That will be the controlling factor, wing load.
>
> Ken
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim Ivey" <jivey61 at bellsouth.net>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 5:54 PM
> Subject: Re: RE: FAI Weight Thread
>
>
>> Guys
>> So you raise it to 5.5 or even 12 lbs,where will it end. In 2 years 
>> someone will want 14 lbs so they can run their gas engine,then we can go 
>> unlimited and be like IMAC where the sky is the limit with weight. Then 
>> we move the box out another 50 yards and make it unlimited width to 
>> accomodate the bigger planes.
>> I think leave well enough alone.
>>
>> Jim Ivey
>>>
>>> From: "Dean Pappas" <d.pappas at kodeos.com>
>>> Date: 2005/02/23 Wed PM 05:12:55 EST
>>> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>>> Subject: RE: FAI Weight Thread
>>>
>>> Hi Ed,
>>> OK, so you agree.  5.5 Kg should be fine, no?
>>>
>>>
>>> Dean Pappas
>>> Sr. Design Engineer
>>> Kodeos Communications
>>> 111 Corporate Blvd.
>>> South Plainfield, N.J. 07080
>>> (908) 222-7817 phone
>>> (908) 222-2392 fax
>>> d.pappas at kodeos.com
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org 
>>> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Ed Miller
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 4:39 PM
>>> To: discussion at nsrca.org
>>> Subject: Re: FAI Weight Thread
>>>
>>>
>>> 5Kg including fuel for glow planes will eliminate 2 of the 3 pattern 
>>> ships now I have, including my newest 2M ship as I doubt I can fly the 
>>> Master's schedule on 7 ounces of fuel. Should it happen I guess I'll 
>>> just sport fly my planes and another NSRCA member and pattern flyer will 
>>> be lost. I suspect over 90% of existing glow ships would now be 
>>> technically illegal. If we keep screwing with rules that outdate or make 
>>> planes overnight illegal, pattern will be a very, very small crowd in a 
>>> very short time. I certainly don't care for the thought that my 
>>> substantial $$ and time investment could be wiped out by a rule that 
>>> accomplishes what ???
>>> Ed M.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: Dean  <mailto:d.pappas at kodeos.com> Pappas
>>> To: discussion at nsrca.org
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 9:27 AM
>>> Subject: RE: FAI Weight Thread
>>>
>>> Hi Bob,
>>> Generally, the desireability of a quieter event is recognized. E-power 
>>> suffers from a definition problem: we weigh without fuel, but with 
>>> batteries. A change to "ready for takeoff" will even the playing field 
>>> ... maybe even tilt it E-ward. Do you kake the present day ships pass a 
>>> 5 Kg standard with fuel, or do you give everyone an additonal 1/2 Kg for 
>>> fuel and or battery.
>>>
>>> While my druthers would be to make everyone meet 5Kg wet/batteried, I 
>>> suspect that there would be resistance to making existing legal 
>>> airplanes suddenly illegal. That's where 5.5 Kg might come from. A total 
>>> removal of the weight limit is exceedingly unlikely. Has anyone spoken 
>>> to Chris Lakin or Ron Chidgey, lately?
>>>
>>> Regards to All,
>>>         Dean
>>>
>>>
>>> Dean Pappas
>>> Sr. Design Engineer
>>> Kodeos Communications
>>> 111 Corporate Blvd.
>>> South Plainfield, N.J. 07080
>>> (908) 222-7817 phone
>>> (908) 222-2392 fax
>>> d.pappas at kodeos.com
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org 
>>> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Bob Pastorello
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 9:07 PM
>>> To: NSRCA
>>> Subject: FAI Weight Thread
>>>
>>>
>>> Over on RCU - apparently some Europeans are under the impression that 
>>> the FAI will consider a proposal to either remove the weight limit, or 
>>> significantly raise it.
>>>
>>> Anybody know what's up with that?
>>>
>>>
>>> Bob Pastorello
>>> NSRCA 199  AMA 46373
>>> rcaerobob at cox.net
>>> www.rcaerobats.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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