FAI Weight Thread - but Wait!

[Grow Pattern]

On the other side of the fence.  A 12-13 lb pattern plane flies like a 
brick, climbs like dog, lands like a duck and over-snaps like jello on a 
cold wet plate..... They can raise it they like but it will be a 
self-leveling syndrome. Also it will only take us, in the USA three more 
years after they do to change our rules :-) How many of us will be still be 
flying then?

Changing the size limit is the only one that I would go to war over. 
Primarily because once you go over 78-3/4" it don't go through the USA or 
European door jambs when dangled, nor does it fit well in a mini-van or an 
SUV, or "What were they called? Oh yeah!" A station wagon :-)

We have to have some sort of design challenge OR we simply lose our creative 
practices and then the edge. It's all causal mes amies!

Regards,

Eric.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Ivey" <jivey61 at bellsouth.net>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: RE: FAI Weight Thread


> Guys
> So you raise it to 5.5 or even 12 lbs,where will it end. In 2 years 
> someone will want 14 lbs so they can run their gas engine,then we can go 
> unlimited and be like IMAC where the sky is the limit with weight. Then we 
> move the box out another 50 yards and make it unlimited width to 
> accomodate the bigger planes.
> I think leave well enough alone.
>
> Jim Ivey
>>
>> From: "Dean Pappas" <d.pappas at kodeos.com>
>> Date: 2005/02/23 Wed PM 05:12:55 EST
>> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>> Subject: RE: FAI Weight Thread
>>
>> Hi Ed,
>> OK, so you agree.  5.5 Kg should be fine, no?
>>
>>
>> Dean Pappas
>> Sr. Design Engineer
>> Kodeos Communications
>> 111 Corporate Blvd.
>> South Plainfield, N.J. 07080
>> (908) 222-7817 phone
>> (908) 222-2392 fax
>> d.pappas at kodeos.com
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org 
>> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Ed Miller
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 4:39 PM
>> To: discussion at nsrca.org
>> Subject: Re: FAI Weight Thread
>>
>>
>> 5Kg including fuel for glow planes will eliminate 2 of the 3 pattern 
>> ships now I have, including my newest 2M ship as I doubt I can fly the 
>> Master's schedule on 7 ounces of fuel. Should it happen I guess I'll just 
>> sport fly my planes and another NSRCA member and pattern flyer will be 
>> lost. I suspect over 90% of existing glow ships would now be technically 
>> illegal. If we keep screwing with rules that outdate or make planes 
>> overnight illegal, pattern will be a very, very small crowd in a very 
>> short time. I certainly don't care for the thought that my substantial $$ 
>> and time investment could be wiped out by a rule that accomplishes what 
>> ???
>> Ed M.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: Dean  <mailto:d.pappas at kodeos.com> Pappas
>> To: discussion at nsrca.org
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 9:27 AM
>> Subject: RE: FAI Weight Thread
>>
>> Hi Bob,
>> Generally, the desireability of a quieter event is recognized. E-power 
>> suffers from a definition problem: we weigh without fuel, but with 
>> batteries. A change to "ready for takeoff" will even the playing field 
>> ... maybe even tilt it E-ward. Do you kake the present day ships pass a 5 
>> Kg standard with fuel, or do you give everyone an additonal 1/2 Kg for 
>> fuel and or battery.
>>
>> While my druthers would be to make everyone meet 5Kg wet/batteried, I 
>> suspect that there would be resistance to making existing legal airplanes 
>> suddenly illegal. That's where 5.5 Kg might come from. A total removal of 
>> the weight limit is exceedingly unlikely. Has anyone spoken to Chris 
>> Lakin or Ron Chidgey, lately?
>>
>> Regards to All,
>>         Dean
>>
>>
>> Dean Pappas
>> Sr. Design Engineer
>> Kodeos Communications
>> 111 Corporate Blvd.
>> South Plainfield, N.J. 07080
>> (908) 222-7817 phone
>> (908) 222-2392 fax
>> d.pappas at kodeos.com
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org 
>> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Bob Pastorello
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 9:07 PM
>> To: NSRCA
>> Subject: FAI Weight Thread
>>
>>
>> Over on RCU - apparently some Europeans are under the impression that the 
>> FAI will consider a proposal to either remove the weight limit, or 
>> significantly raise it.
>>
>> Anybody know what's up with that?
>>
>>
>> Bob Pastorello
>> NSRCA 199  AMA 46373
>> rcaerobob at cox.net
>> www.rcaerobats.net
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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